Question to Ponder: Peace - Internally or externally governed?

I have been pondering the idea of peace lately, having just preached a sermon on Jesus as the "The Prince of Peace."
In Philippians 4:7, the Holy Spirit promised "the peace of God" when we turn everything over to God in prayer. This peace, we are told "surpasses all understanding."

My question that I would be interested in hearing your PLEO-comments on is: Is the peace that surpasses all understanding governed internally, in the inner-man, or is it governed by external circumstances? Please try to explain your answer for the benefit of all.


As you think about this question, consider that rare person who stays calm despite their circumstances. Consider the various circumstances the word "peace" is used in the New Testament. Consider your own degree of inner peace and ask yourself, "Do I know this kind of peace?"

Looking forward to your comments.
  • pistos
    Seems to me that the peace is internal since external circumstances are nearly guaranteed to be uncontrollable and not always peaceful (James 1:2; Matthew 5:10-13), and thus not governable. "Peace I leave with you, My peace I give to you; not as the world gives do I give to you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid" (John 14:27).
    by pistos at 01/08/10 9:23PM
  • sallyanne
    It is governed internally.
    by sallyanne at 01/08/10 10:39PM
  • shawnsgirl1
    ...governed internally. Peace is a fruit of the Spirit (Gal. 5:22-23), which goes hand in hand with the other fruits of the Spirit. It also seems to be a choice, as in Rom. 2:10; 12:18; 14:19; 1Pet.3:11; etc.
    by shawnsgirl1 at 01/09/10 12:39AM
  • preachersimon
    I think internal peace is the peace that surpasses all understanding, especially in the context of Philippians.
    1:12 Paul says even being in prison turned out for good.
    1:27-30 they are to have worthy conduct regardless of the circumstances (Paul's presence or absence, even in persecutions).
    2:14 no complaining!
    3:15-20 press on knowing our citizenship is in heaven.
    4:6-7 the peace of God guards "hearts and minds."
    4:8 prescribes meditating on good things.
    4:11 Contentment in any state.
    by preachersimon at 01/14/10 11:43AM
  • chessman
    That's a bit of a tricky question. I think, actually, despite the visceral "internal" reaction, that it is externally derived and governed in this sense: If we are right with God, and have proper faith, our circumstances, on balance, are pretty awesome, even if to a casual observance we are, say, being waterboarded by rouge CIA agents, or suffering from acute reverse peristalsis in the esophagus. The internal almost makes it sound like we bring peace to ourselves, like in Buddhist philosophy. In actuality, Christ brings the peace, and I believe it is based on the fact that our circumsstances are wonderful.
    by chessman at 01/25/10 5:14PM

Abortion is a sin and this 12 year old girl has the right of it!

Apparently, this 12 year old girl won a speech contest at her school with this speech, though it was not without national news worthy controversy.

She was at first encouraged not to speak on this topic. She chose to proceed anyway. She was then told she would not be able to advance to the next level of the competition if she used this topic. She chose to proceed anyway. She then was disqualified for giving the speech and after having a judge step down because she was offended by the speech, they overturned the decision and made this girl the winner. She will now compete at the next level of her competition.

I admire this young lady's courage, passion and ability. She speaks the truth here and it well worth the listen.

  • broadside
    Hey Mr. Perz it's me Joel. Can't wait to see ya'll in a few weeks.
    by broadside at 05/15/09 2:05PM
  • broadside
    That was a great speech. But you never hear anything about this stuff on the news because then we might offend someone. I believe there's not enough being said about this and many other things that are happening in the world rigt now. We often times just "push it under the rug" so to speak and do give it any attention. Great video.
    by broadside at 05/15/09 2:14PM
  • sallyanne
    Happy Father's Day to the unblogger :)
    by sallyanne at 06/21/09 4:10PM
  • leahabigail
    HAPPY FATHER'S DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    by leahabigail at 06/21/09 6:02PM
  • _fire_of_fantasy_
    Happy Father's Day!
    by _fire_of_fantasy_ at 06/21/09 10:33PM
  • pink_ladybug
    Happy Father's Day!
    by pink_ladybug at 06/25/09 2:11PM
  • tanja
    I know you've had this up for awhile. I'm glad I found it before you put up a new blog. She did a really good job. See you soon.
    by tanja at 08/28/09 1:11PM
  • broadside
    He will never put up a new blog, are you kidding!!!
    by broadside at 09/19/09 9:53AM
  • canardmom23
    Wow~ I realize this post was made several months ago...but it was my first time to view this video. Thank you. I am passing it on to my group of mothers on CafeMom.
    by canardmom23 at 10/27/09 10:25AM
  • 1cor13
    Amen.
    by 1cor13 at 12/22/09 1:35PM
  • sallyanne
    Happy Anniversary. It was wonderful.
    by sallyanne at 12/22/09 8:33PM
  • leahabigail
    Happy Anniversary!!!!!
    by leahabigail at 12/22/09 8:55PM
  • leahabigail
    HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    by leahabigail at 01/04/10 9:59PM
  • _fire_of_fantasy_
    Happy birthday, Daddo! :D Love you!
    by _fire_of_fantasy_ at 01/04/10 11:09PM
  • sallyanne
    Happy Birthday to my favorite husband ;)
    by sallyanne at 01/04/10 11:54PM
  • mtnestr
    Happy belated birthday, Jonathan! Hope it was a good one!
    by mtnestr at 01/05/10 8:55AM
  • somebodystolemybday
    Happy Birthday Mr. Perz!
    by somebodystolemybday at 01/05/10 9:32AM
  • juliamiriam
    Happy Belated Birthday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    by juliamiriam at 01/05/10 5:41PM
  • sirtorin
    Happy Birthday! =)
    by sirtorin at 01/05/10 6:30PM
  • ethantweedie14
    Happy Birthday, Mr. Perz!!
    by ethantweedie14 at 01/06/10 8:15AM

To Sin Against Wisdom

In one of the greatest personifications in all of Scripture, the wise man paints a powerful picture of wisdom. While there are many amazing statements about wisdom in Proverbs 8, one in particular struck me as signifantly poignant.

"For whoever finds me finds life, And obtains favor from the Lord; But he who sins against me wrongs his own soul; All those who hate me love death.” (Prov. 8:35-36).

The language used here almost makes you think that the wise man is speaking of God, and not merely wisdom. I mean, does not the idea of "sinning against wisdom" not cause you pause? The fact that sinning in such a way is equated to "wronging our own soul" is astounding!

If anything can be taken from such a revelation, it certainly places an exclamation point on the reality that we must not turn our back on wisdom ... most importantly, the wisdom of God ... as she is so very precious to our soul!
  • mtnestr
    Good thoughts, Jonathan!
    by mtnestr at 11/18/08 7:28PM
  • sallyanne
    Well you guys have lots of great thoughts, but I still love that she's a woman ;)
    by sallyanne at 11/18/08 11:22PM
  • _fire_of_fantasy_
    You. Actually. Posted. Do you realize how how absolutely amazing that is?
    by _fire_of_fantasy_ at 11/19/08 4:26PM
  • barrel_racing
    Yaay! Mr Jonathan posted!!! Great thoughts. ;)
    by barrel_racing at 11/19/08 5:50PM
  • jodimn
    Great thoughts! I'm glad you posted and am looking forward to more.
    by jodimn at 11/21/08 10:53AM
  • im_a_texan
    So how are you? -Kayla Oleinik
    by im_a_texan at 12/04/08 9:02PM
  • sirtorin
    Happy New Year!
    by sirtorin at 01/01/09 4:29PM
  • sallyanne
    Happy New Year!
    by sallyanne at 01/01/09 5:59PM
  • larryrouse
    Did someone get Jonathan's password and post for Him?
    by larryrouse at 01/02/09 10:04PM
  • daddyzgirl15
    Happy birthday Mr Jonathan!
    by daddyzgirl15 at 01/05/09 8:54AM
  • somebodystolemybday
    Happy Belated Birthday Mr. Perz!!! :)
    by somebodystolemybday at 01/05/09 6:34PM
  • qtpie323
    Happy Belated Birthday, Mr. Jonathan!!!!
    by qtpie323 at 01/05/09 8:50PM
  • sallyanne
    Well, I guess we should have wished you a Happy B-day on here, too. I thought about it...but since you never check ;) just skipped it. Now, I feel bad! So, here it is :)
    by sallyanne at 01/05/09 9:39PM
  • im_a_texan
    hAPPY LATE BIRTHDAY!
    by im_a_texan at 01/06/09 1:28PM
  • ethantweedie14
    Happy WAY BELATED Birthday, Mr. Perz!!! =)
    by ethantweedie14 at 01/07/09 8:32AM
  • _fire_of_fantasy_
    Happy Completely Majorly Belated Birthday, Daddo!!
    by _fire_of_fantasy_ at 01/16/09 5:28PM
  • sirtorin
    ^ Well, now I don't feel quite so bad about missing it until now.... =P

    Happy Birthday!
    by sirtorin at 01/17/09 2:03PM
  • leahabigail
    HAPPY TOTALLY BELATED B-DAY DAD!!!!!!!
    by leahabigail at 01/18/09 3:36PM
  • thesecondthought
    Mr. Perz, would you do me a favour and consider looking at her page and leaving your thoughts?
    by thesecondthought at 02/07/09 10:37PM
  • sallyanne
    Happy ♥ Day! To my Valentine!
    by sallyanne at 02/14/09 10:35AM

A one word update... go and learn what it means...

Hupomone
  • jake28
    Hey Jonathan, this is Jacob Holman. I need your email address so I can send you the religious survey you requested. Thanks!
    by jake28 at 03/25/08 1:25PM
  • leahabigail
    Very funny!!! You can do much better than a word I'm sure...
    by leahabigail at 04/05/08 11:12PM
  • dragon_blade
    Don't be a stick in the mud. GET ANOTHER POST UP!!!!!
    by dragon_blade at 04/08/08 4:00PM
  • dragon_blade
    *evil laughter*Otherwise I'll hack your account, and do it myself. :P
    by dragon_blade at 04/08/08 4:01PM
  • schmidtkins
    LOL, Good evening, Moody preacher! I am guessing that if you don't know who this is, your family can tell you! Your new dogs have surely completed your family. How sweet! LOL
    by schmidtkins at 04/08/08 8:50PM
  • dragon_blade
    ^^Daddo, meet Ms. Amy Schmidt. :D^^
    by dragon_blade at 04/10/08 12:22PM
  • danmadrigal
    Hey - I am helping a church in Alabama find a preacher. If you know someone, let me know.
    by danmadrigal at 04/10/08 9:34PM
  • barrel_racing
    Hello Mr. Perz! (This is Desdi Oleinik btw)
    by barrel_racing at 04/17/08 4:39PM
  • juliamiriam
    UPDATE!!!!!! please.................................
    by juliamiriam at 04/29/08 1:44PM
  • juliamiriam
    Daddy, I can't go look it up.
    by juliamiriam at 05/08/08 10:59AM
  • dragon_blade
    Blimey, mate. This is like...the most boringest blog on Pleo...You've only updated like...twice.... *sighs* "Manmonsters, so verilously dumbilythick..."
    by dragon_blade at 05/28/08 5:34PM
  • shawnsgirl1
    a virtue we should all have :)
    by shawnsgirl1 at 06/10/08 4:57PM
  • curlie
    HAPPY FATHER'S DAY!
    by curlie at 06/15/08 2:43PM
  • sirtorin
    Happy Father's Day!
    by sirtorin at 06/15/08 4:40PM
  • sirtarin
    Happy Father's Day!! =D
    by sirtarin at 06/15/08 4:56PM
  • leahabigail
    HAPPY FATHERS DAY!!!!!!!!!
    by leahabigail at 06/17/08 7:53PM
  • barrel_racing
    Happy Father's Day!
    by barrel_racing at 06/27/08 10:29AM
  • barrel_racing
    Me mum looked it up!
    by barrel_racing at 07/10/08 5:49PM
  • swiftedge
    Dude. Methinks one should update one's blog soon.
    by swiftedge at 09/12/08 2:12PM
  • sirtorin
    Nice to see you again. =)
    by sirtorin at 10/05/08 5:24PM

A thought or two on Gospel Meetings...

I hear it oft repeated these days that "Gospel Meetings no longer work." Is this true? Might it be more accurate to say that we don't work the gospel meetings the way they need to be worked?

I have solid evidence that if we would get out there and invite folks with some zeal and enthusiasm to our meetings, that folks will come. I would be glad to bounce ideas with anyone interested in getting a little more mileage out of their meeting efforts. So, work them meetings my brethren.

What about attending other's meetings? I know we are a busy people, but what value do we place upon the encouragement that comes from having visiting brethren attend our gospel meetings? It is huge! What about visitng other's meetings? It is not a matter of finding the time, it is a matter of making the time! We all can do a better job of encouraging one another in this regard. So, attend them meetings my brethren.

A little something to think about, as brother Perz steps off of his soapbox...
  • sallyanne
    the Pleo's really need to get moving...perhaps you need a new muse?
    by sallyanne at 10/26/07 2:30AM
  • hthuskies
    Hey Jonathan. Just saw Sally's site and thought I would pop in a say hello too. Love the name by the way. :)
    by hthuskies at 10/27/07 10:18AM
  • jake28
    hey jonathan. this is jacob holman, from jasper. glad to see you've joined the 'nast!
    by jake28 at 10/29/07 11:35PM
  • jake28
    :)
    by jake28 at 10/30/07 3:03PM
  • mreid72
    Howdy Jonathan! Welcome to pleo. Hope all's going well with you. Guess you've heard I'm in Houston now, training with Dee Bowman. Lovin' it here, but I can't wait to get back to the southeast in 2 years!
    by mreid72 at 11/05/07 3:23PM
  • nanna
    This is Hannah! Miriam's sister!
    by nanna at 11/15/07 7:38PM
  • sallyanne
    If your gonna keep the beard you ought to update the pic :) Or lose the beard? :)
    by sallyanne at 12/04/07 8:46AM
  • bookworm14
    Hello, this is Brittany Gougar. =)
    by bookworm14 at 12/06/07 9:14PM
  • sirtorin
    HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!
    by sirtorin at 01/01/08 3:26PM
  • somebodystolemybday
    Hello Mr.Perz this is George Tweedie,newcomer @ camp this year. I'm sure you don't remember me !
    by somebodystolemybday at 01/04/08 12:52PM
  • pink_ladybug
    Congratulations to Hannah! She's a great friend, and I miss all of you!
    by pink_ladybug at 01/07/08 4:41PM
  • sallyanne
    Still no beard pic? Hmmm...Wait till your kids get on...they will love this stagnant page ;)
    by sallyanne at 01/13/08 1:10AM
  • swiftedge
    UPDATE!!! xP
    by swiftedge at 01/26/08 1:05PM
  • juliamiriam
    Hello Daddy!
    by juliamiriam at 02/16/08 4:15PM
  • leahabigail
    Hi!!!
    by leahabigail at 02/16/08 4:31PM
  • _fire_of_fantasy_
    Hello, Dad. ;)
    by _fire_of_fantasy_ at 02/19/08 12:00PM
  • juliamiriam
    Daddy, Are you on?
    by juliamiriam at 02/19/08 7:10PM
  • dragon_blade
    Honestly, Daddo. You need to update. It's rather pathetic that a techy like you can't even manage to update on a simple little blog...:P :D :)
    by dragon_blade at 02/21/08 11:58AM
  • juliamiriam
    UPDATE! please.....
    by juliamiriam at 02/21/08 12:24PM
  • sirtorin
    May I join the crowd? :P

    Let's see, you have a total of 2 posts, one day apart from each other. And now you have 4 months since your last one. Your posting rate has fallen tremendously.
    by sirtorin at 02/23/08 1:10AM