Long Time, No Post

So many things have happened, I don't really know where to begin. In no particular order, life:

~we've moved. We're renting-to-own a house from some friends of ours who, providentially, wanted to move at the same moment we had no choice about moving. We lived together for about a week (maybe only five days), and they are picking up the rest of their things in a week or two. They have been amazingly generous and offered us their house at the cost of their mortgage. It's a huge blessing and I've been grateful and humbled and surprised and many, many other things that I can't express.

~having a house is hard work. Most of you know that I have a 45-minute commute, one-way. I leave the house at 6:40 am and don't return until 6:20 pm. That makes for a long day. Then I come home and try to find the balance between cooking and cleaning and spending time with my extremely patient husband and recreation and Projects (with a capital P because I can't seem to do projects with a lower-case p) and maintaining friendships and relationships with family. I also try to sleep occasionally, which has gotten better in recent months, but is still a struggle from time to time, especially when I think of...

~...the fact that we no longer have a relationship with Ben's parents or sister. It's a long, complicated, messy, messy, messy story that dragged out for a few months and generally made life and the transition of moving wretched. I've felt desperately sad and uncontrollably angry and I've despaired of being loved or ever feeling worthwhile again. I grieve for my husband, but I can't say that I'm not relieved that things at last came to a cusp and things were decided one way or another. It's also entirely out of my control, and I like control, and it's hard to have to wait for others to make better choices.

~listening to Pride and Prejudice while driving to and fro has enchanted me and I was terribly sad when the book finally ended. I decided I must therefore watch the five-hour BBC version of the film immediately and plan on going to be rather late tonight so that I can watch as much as possible.

~there is a Mexican bakery far too near to where I work. It is causing problems for me. Delicious, cinnamon, churro-y problems :)

~there is a new person at my work. I'm pretty sure I adore her after only three weeks. She works quickly and hard and is cheerful and talks to me and doesn't mind that I'm a little OCD about how I do things. We also talk about religion and God and the Bible more often than I've talked with any co-worker in years. She lives a rather worldly life, which makes me very sad, but she seems open to Christianity and I'm hoping and praying that we get closer and that she gets closer to God. It also makes me nervous, because I feel the pressure of being a witness for Christ more than I ever have.

~I got to spend my lunch hour with a dear, dear friend (you know who you are) this week. I've been ruminating far too much lately, which tends to make me sad and despairing, and getting to spend some time with her was refreshing and cheering and pretty much wonderful in every way.

~sometimes I feel desperately lonely, even though rationally I shouldn't. In a non-pity-party kind of way, aside from Ben, I don't really get to spend much time with people who I *know* love me and genuinely care for me. I don't have any close relationships (husband excepting) where I am, and, quite frankly, I need them. I have friends and good relationships with my brethren and lots of people who care for me, but none of the camaraderie or affection or history that comes with kindred spirits.

~my husband took me for a picnic today, where we lounged in the dappled shade by a pond and read books and generally enjoyed spending a quiet time together. The weather was perfectly warm and gently breezy and we were out without being around people and only three ants bothered me the whole time. There was an incident with a bee, but the only one who was hurt was the bee and, frankly, it served him right for trying to touch my delicious Mexican pastries.

~my new cookbook is all about baking and there are stunningly beautiful pictures and I've been reading it before I go to bed in hopes of inspiring delicious dreams. It has sufficiently interesting things, such as fig and raspberry croustades, cheese danish, meringue, genoise, and almond lace cookies. I'm very glad the holiday season is approaching :)

I shall leave you with a favorite joke of mine:

What did they say about the optometrist who fell into a lens grinder?

He made a spectacle of himself.

!! I love it !!
  • cyber_space_cadet
    That is an Andrew joke if I ever read one.

    I am SO, SO sorry about Ben's family. :'(
    by cyber_space_cadet at 09/27/14 11:11PM
  • mayflower
    When did you get married??? I completely missed that!
    by mayflower at 09/28/14 4:02PM
  • pandora
    I LOVE YOU! In fact, I adore you. Hugs.
    by pandora at 09/29/14 7:04PM
  • sirtarin
    It is definitely nice to have enjoyable coworkers. I'm trying to find more opportunities to make comments and such to stimulate them to think about religious things more. So far I haven't been quick witted enough to properly take advantage of the few I've noticed.

    Audiobooks are enjoyable. I've been listening to Robinson Crusoe (And am now about 3/4 of the way through.). Pride and Prejudice is a particularly good book. Maybe sometime I'll get the audiobook. :)
    by sirtarin at 09/30/14 4:19PM
  • deputyheadmistress
    by deputyheadmistress at 03/14/15 11:56AM

Winter Can Stop Now

Anytime. Really, I'm okay with that. I've tried not to complain about the record-breaking snowfall or the freezing-cold-to-death temperatures or the water pouring down our walls or shoveling two feet of snow and four inches of ice off our roof or the pipes freezing not-once-not-twice-but-three-times. But I'm tired. I'm cold. I'm having massive anxiety about driving and nightmares and for the last five weeks I've had to spend at least one (sometimes two) nights a week away from home so that I can still get to work (because I've already missed quite a few days because of this weather) and we really can't (and I really mean can't) afford to miss any more work and if it doesn't stop precipitating soon I am probably going to be found rocking back and forth singing "the rain rain rain came down down down" from Winnie the Pooh and the Blustery Day over and over again and I'll be committed. And then Ben will starve because he can't cook and they won't let me near sharp objects or a stove.

And I really, truly appreciate my dear friends who have so graciously let me stay with them so many times this winter, but I feel like The Inconvenient Houseguest and I should probably start paying rent (so Ben says) or maybe just put up a tent in their backyard. (For the record, they have never made me feel inconvenient, that's just me being melodramatic and a middle child and all that)

So. Winter. Are you done yet? And for that matter, can we also skip ahead of the spring rains that will bring flooding because the ground is still frozen and the rivers are full of ice and they ice will dam the river and everything will flood and I'll probably drown?

On the other hand, since I missed work yesterday because of the icy roads of death, we rearranged a bit of furniture in our bedroom and I feel slightly less oppressed by life.

  • sirtarin
    All of you out that way sound sick of winter. And I can't blame you. I hope the weather starts improving for you all.
    by sirtarin at 02/19/14 9:11PM
  • cyber_space_cadet
    So. Done. With. Winter.

    SO. Done.
    by cyber_space_cadet at 03/29/14 8:26PM

It's been a llooonnngggg time!

Hello Friends! It's been a long time since I've posted (and there will probably be an equally lengthy gap following this post...).

I have an important question regarding 1 Timothy 2: 8-15 (with an emphasis on vs. 11-12)

We're studying the Timothy and Titus letters in our Wednesday night bible class and we're currently in the above passage. I've understood the passage to be directed at Christians when assembled together, not only the standard assembly (Sundays, Wednesdays, etc) but also to include any gathering of brethren (bible studies, singings, etc). Contextually, I thought that the learning mentioned in vs. 11 refers to the learning of spiritual things and thus the prohibition on teaching or having authority over men also referred to spiritual things, whether in the whole assembly or any gathering of Christians, or even just a Christian woman among non-Christians.

However, in bible class, the general consensus was that vs. 12 prohibits women from teaching or having any authority over men in any place or at any time. As in, women cannot have any authority over any man they work with or they cannot command/direct/instruct a man in any way, shape, or form. Is this the correct understanding of the passage?

We'll be discussing this more on Wednesday, but I'm really struggling with this and could use some insight.


P.S. Sorry this is choppy/jumbled. My brain is fried.


So, we ran out of time in class on Wednesday (we ended at vs. 10), so we haven't discussed vs. 11-12 yet. You have all given me lots of good things to think about. In quick summation of our discussions in class so far, a lot of people believe that vs. 8-15 are directly referencing daily life and should be treated as such. While we haven't gotten to vs. 11-12 yet, the questions our teacher wrote are rather leading (What did God (through Paul) restrict in the lives of women? (regarding vs.12)). I've been studying a lot and will continue to keep studying and studying. Any other thoughts are definitely welcome!
  • tryphena
    I look forward to seeing what others have to say about this. I skimmed through Chapters 1-3 to get more of the context, and I don't see anything that refers to only the assembly; indeed, there is nothing that refers to the assembly at all. I lean toward the idea that women are not to exercise spiritual authority over men, which carries out of the assembly and into everyday life. It is a general principle from Genesis on--other scriptures talk about authority and the order of creation. I think it is as much attitude as action, though. I own a business with my husband, and most of our employees are Christian men. My husband has placed me in a position of authority over these men, but I do my best to use it carefully and respectfully.

    An example: Priscilla, along with her husband, showed Apollos the error of his ways, and I have always understand that the way the Greek is written indicates that Priscilla might have been instrumental in that discussion.

    How literally should the passage be taken? If we read one verse as an absolute, then we need to treat another the same way. Which means I cannot wear pearls or braids.
    by tryphena at 11/12/13 6:53AM
  • nchantment4u
    Always a difficult passage for me. Growing up i took most things absolutely, so this passage meant (to me) that I shouldn't run for president of student council (not that I was interested in that), couldn't teach a friend who was a guy, etc. Then the complications arose as I grew in age and wisdom...when is a male considered a man? (some were saying I couldn't teach boys at our congregation if they had been baptized), is it having authority to show someone an insight from the Bible? does a teacher of non-spiritual things (i.e. high school or college) fall in this category?
    I don't have concrete answers, just lots of questions and opinions, so for now I'll listen to the discussion. By the way, are there any men here? ;-)
    by nchantment4u at 11/12/13 7:39AM
  • 23_bravo_7
    In the c of C the problem is one of inconsistency. Most, if not all, Bible classes allow women to read scripture, ask questions and made comments. Making comments is teaching. Why do brethren make a distinction between "assemblies", one where women can teach and another where they can't? The NT makes no such separation.
    Acts 18:26 He began to speak boldly in the synagogue, but when Priscilla and Aquila heard him, they took him and explained to him the way of God more accurately. Apollos was taken aside.

    However, I believe brethren have read into the above passage more than Paul intended, making it more restrictive.
    by 23_bravo_7 at 11/12/13 7:50AM
  • nchantment4u
    ^so what do you feel is the right interpretation of the passages?
    by nchantment4u at 11/12/13 8:05AM
  • 23_bravo_7
    Firstly, if a woman is to remain silent and not teach, then she cannot sing. Singing, according to Paul in Col. 3:16, requires both making a sound and teaching. I believe the context of the above passage and I Cor. 14 deals with doing things in a orderly manner. Take the singing for example. It would not be right nor proper for a woman, out of the clear blue, to just break into song in the assembly. By the same token a man could not do that either, both would collide with Paul's admonition for order in the assembly.
    My belief is in the context of usurpation of authority and not doing things in an orderly manner. Perhaps, women, with their "freedom" in Christ took matters too far. If I believed that women were forbidden to speak, then I would also have to believe Bible classes are unscriptural. I don't.

    One more thing, a congregation was criticized for the announcement maker saying "good morning" and allowing the congregation to answer back. The criticism was that women were speaking.
    by 23_bravo_7 at 11/12/13 9:47AM
  • sarahmarcelle
    Hi! Dot sent me over this way. We have also been studying this passage in our Wed night bible study as well. Last week a very interesting point was made--the assembly at that time was revolutionary: slaves and free men together, men and women together. Most groups (even the Jews, I believe) did not allow women to join (even listen to) the religious discussion of the day. We often see this passage as restrictive, but in that day and time, the church elevated the lower members of society.

    1 Timothy is about church practices, if you look at the book in context. It is Paul's instruction to Timothy on how to instruct the church to act. It deals with doctrine, false teachers, church leaders/elders, the role of all to each other (older men, older women, young men, younger women), the treatment of widows, slaves/masters, etc.

    Paul says: "Although I hope to come to you soon, I am writing you these instructions so that, 15 if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God’s household, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth."

    Also, there are several problems if you take the perspective (that this book is not about God's household) to its logical conclusion. For example, we would have to put every good widow we come in contact with on "the list", whether she is part of our assembly or not. Do elders have authority over all in the secular realm, even those outside the church? Additionally, there are other passages (like Priscilla) that are in direct contradiction.

    Basically, to say that this applies to all situations for women, one needs to prove why this passage, out of all the instructions to all the other classes within the church is the one that is different, and why it alone is out of the context of Paul's whole letter to Timothy. And if it is (which I do not believe it is), why does it contradict other direct commands given to all Christians?
    by sarahmarcelle at 11/12/13 9:53AM
  • zackattacknlacylady
    This is a question I am still pondering and do not have any solid answer, but the question to me is what does silence mean? If it is literal silence, not uttering a sound, then a women can't speak at all. Not speak to a child or speak to her spouse or sing or say amen after a prayer. I do not think that is the meaning, so what is another meaning of silence...perhaps quiet spirit or calmness. If silence means total silence, what are the ramification if it taken to it logical conclusion, does it hold accurate?? Either meaning should be taken out to a conclusion and decide which is consistent with the scriptures and a spiritual life. Another question I think about is vs 12 ....permit a women to teach or to have authority over a man. Does that read,,, permit a woman to teach (period) or to have authority over a man (period) or is is ....permit a woman to teach in authority over a man. One thought or two thoughts???? Pretty sure we see woman teaching in the scriptures so the later thought would be more consistent.
    About the meaning being an assembly or all parts of life... I don't see any assembly context but my bible has a heading 'Women in public worship
    What ever the conclusion it needs to be consistent, I agree we are not very consistent in many thing.
    Looking forward to more comment from more learned folks. Good thoughts so far from everyone,
    by zackattacknlacylady at 11/12/13 11:02AM
  • misssonja
    The context is Paul writing to Timothy, who is acting in some capacity that I am not sure exists in today's church... He is not exactly an elder, because he is young and unmarried. But he is more than an evangelist, because the NT meaning of evangelist is one who goes out in the community and preaches the gospel to the unsaved. Timothy and Titus were more like emissaries of Paul, you might say "jr apostles" or "church planters" with authority derived from Paul, staying to preach and instruct new believers, appointing elders and deacons, helping leadership understand their responsibilities, etc. Evangelicals look at Timothy and Titus and see them as pastors or sr pastors (as the term is used today) and I'm not sure their view is heretical.

    So all that to say, we have Paul instructing Timothy regarding doctrine and the life of the church...which is not simply a Sunday morning assembly...and these are teachings applicable to the interactions of Christians with one another. Paul covers a variety of topics: correcting false teachers, praying together, how to comport oneself in dress and demeanor, appointing leadership, etc.

    So when he gets to 2:11-12, it would be inconsistent to apply "learn quietly with all submissiveness" or "not teach/exercise authority over a man" to any/every situation the world offers... (Consider Lydia...) Paul is giving instructions on our interactions *with each other as Christians*. There are settings and conversations in which it is unseemly and disrespectful for women to speak and lead and assume authority. Within our ranks, we are to model the male/female hierarchy and family dynamic that God designed. God intended that the man would serve as head of his home -- he would speak for his household and they would submit to his authority/leadership. If your husband is present, yet you open your mouth in public and ask questions, you are saying to his peers that you cannot raise your questions and discuss your concerns with him at home, that you do not accept his leadership -- you are embarrassing him and robbing him of dignity in front of other men. Probably more so in 1st C culture, but even so today.

    And frankly, I think we disobey this passage when we design "classes" where we decide it's okay for women to speak (and often to virtually lead), but then "worship" where we decide it's not okay.

    We know that women were not silenced by this doctrine -- they were able to live and communicate with men, and do business and offer charity, and even privately teach men. Common sense is required to apply the teaching and I don't think it's as difficult as we often make it by stretching it out of context or taking it to extremes.

    A question for the women... Why do we feel it is so imperative for us to speak -- whether that is to read a passage, to say amen, to offer a question or comment? Do we think we are smarter, more insightful? Are we offended? I have learned much from the example of a handful of women who choose to be quiet, silent, and let the men speak as leaders.
    by misssonja at 11/12/13 1:41PM
  • pandora
    Haven't read comments and I would have to take time later tonight to read this and think about it at length, but I do believe that it is very important to recognize the fact that Paul was talking to *Christians* about *spiritual* teaching/leadeship/questions. It would be a mistake, I think, to read that passage and believe it prohibits a woman from having authority over a man in a job or other teaching situation. The Prov. 31 had lots of her own businesses going on, and I'm sure she had male slaves/servants under her to direct.
    by pandora at 11/12/13 5:06PM
  • tryphena
    Regarding Sonja's last paragraph: I have chosen in the past few years to be silent in Bible classes for the sake of consistency. I *will* speak if the teacher makes a request of me directly, but most seem to realize that I have elected to stay silent. I occasionally have something to add to the discussion perhaps, but nothing worth abandoning principle for.
    by tryphena at 11/12/13 8:15PM
  • sirjerric

    By way of cyber_space_cadet, I have come and decided to throw in a few verses. Reading my commentary is optional. =)

    Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ, . . . To Timothy, a true son in the faith: . . .
    As I urged you when I went into Macedonia--remain in Ephesus
    that you may charge some that they teach no other doctrine,
    nor give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which cause disputes
    rather than godly edification which is in faith.
    Now the purpose of the commandment is love
    from a pure heart, from a good conscience, and from sincere faith, . . .
    And I thank Christ Jesus our Lord who has enabled me,
    because He counted me faithful, putting me into the ministry, . . .
    This charge I commit to you, son Timothy, according to the prophecies previously made concerning you, that by them you may wage the good warfare, having faith and a good conscience, . . .

    (1 Timothy 1:1-5,12,18-19 NKJV)

    The introduction to the letter. Contains some information on the overall goal and the problems to be addressed. Specifically, Paul writes to instruct Timothy on ensuring that the gospel is being taught correctly. The purpose of the gospel message (commandment) is love, to be delivered in a specific way. Paul is assigning Timothy to make certain that this is being done.

    I exhort first of all
    that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks be made for all men, for kings and all who are in authority,
    that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and reverence. . . .

    (1 Timothy 2:1-2 NKJV)

    Step one in what Timothy should teach. There are four things that should be done, and a desired result.

    I desire therefore
    that the men pray everywhere, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting;
    in like manner also,
    that the women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with propriety and moderation, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or costly clothing,
    but, which is proper for women professing godliness, with good works.

    (1 Timothy 2:8-10 NKJV)

    Specific methods of implementing "step one". While what the men are to do is a straight-forward parallel, the women are to act "in like manner", suggesting that their actions are a parallel to those of the men. Notice the parallels in the terms across verses 8-10 with the terms in verses 1-2.
    - supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks
    -- pray
    - quiet and peaceable
    -- without wrath
    - all godliness and reverence
    -- propriety and moderation ... professing godliness
    - life
    -- good works

    Let a woman learn in silence with all submission.
    And I do not permit a woman
    to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence.
    Adam was formed first, then Eve.
    Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression.
    she will be saved in childbearing
    if they continue in faith, love, and holiness, with self-control.

    (1 Timothy 2:11-15 NKJV)

    Is this "Step two", or more specifics for "Step one"? Either way, it is still in the context of teaching the gospel correctly.

    REQUIREMENT and REQUIREMENT. For REASON and REASON. Nevertheless she RESULT in childbearing if they continue in LIFESTYLE.
    Notice the switchover from "she" to "they", indicating that she is responsible for seeing that her children continue in LIFESTYLE. She still has duties in teaching.

    The context is that of learning, as set in verse 11. "And" Paul does not permit "a woman to teach or have authority over a man" in that context. But are there other limiters on this scope?

    These things I write to you, though I hope to come to you shortly; but if I am delayed,
    I write so that you may know how you ought to conduct yourself
    in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

    (1 Timothy 3:14-15 NKJV)

    Paul didn't leave Timothy in the dark about his context. He charged Timothy to address certain issues. There is a list of "these things", starting with 2:1 about praying, including 2:11 as either more of that or another point, and including the selection of elders and deacons in chapter 3.

    Paul wrote to Timothy so that he would know how to conduct himself in the house of God. Timothy needs to act like Paul in how he organizes people in the assembly, and Paul said "I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man" in the learning context of the assembly. But remember, "the purpose of the commandment is love", so don't be beating people over the head with this either. =)

    by sirjerric at 11/12/13 11:44PM
  • misssonja
    Marcie reminds me of an important summary passage:
    Although I hope to come to you soon, I am writing you these instructions so that, if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God’s household, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.

    God's household is "the church of the living God" -- not the assembly of the local church on Sunday morning and evening, and Wednesday evening. The instructions for the church are applicable in our interactions *with one another, as disciples of Christ* all day, anywhere, all week, all the time, within our local congregation or in relationships with Christians outside that local context. We balance this with the Prov 31 virtuous wife, with Priscilla, with Lydia, etc -- for a complete picture of feminine righteousness in daily life.

    And yes, to Marcie's point: Christ in his church demolished class/rank/partiality. So just as we see in I Corinthians, we have Paul reminding boundaries on expression of this equality -- calling women to respect the God-ordained role of their husbands and to behave circumspectly, in submission to leadership, to the glory of their Lord, because marriage is a picture of Christ (as husband) and his bride, the church. It is our obligation as ladies to depict to the world the beauty of a pure bride joyfully adoring her man.
    by misssonja at 11/13/13 8:05AM
  • cyber_space_cadet
    That ("I have chosen in the past few years to be silent in Bible classes for the sake of consistency. I *will* speak if the teacher makes a request of me directly, but most seem to realize that I have elected to stay silent. I occasionally have something to add to the discussion perhaps, but nothing worth abandoning principle for.") is exactly where I've been for several years now...probably close to most of the time that we have lived out here.
    by cyber_space_cadet at 11/13/13 4:03PM
  • midnightlynx83
    I know I'm coming in late to the party, and if this has already been stated above, I apologize - but the aspect of women remaining completely silent in that they never give any training to the male gender is completely and totally fabricated, a twisted belief that is too often reported as fact using these verses, out of context. For that claim to be accurate:
    - mothers cannot correct or instruct their male children at all (I think this was mentioned above)
    - a believing wife may not try to teach her non-believing husband and even must adjust her actions accordingly as acting rightly would be a form of teaching
    - Timothy was not brought up correctly as it was his mother and grandmother who raised him
    - Women cannot teach other women as in doing so, those women may begin to act more rightly and as such become examples to those around them, including men, which they cannot teach...

    This list could go on and on, and already I have touched on a handful of points that we know Scriptures teach the exact opposite thing. The belief that this applies across the board in every facet is an example of making an assumption based off partial, local context instead of taking into account the entire, global context. To view it otherwise means that women cannot pray at all if men are around, that they cannot sing, that they cannot encourage or admonish... none of this fits into the global context of what we, as Christians, are to do for one another.

    What IS being discussed in these verses is the proper steps and actions in leading the assembled congregation in worship. Some may try and claim that's limiting the text, but based off what we see elsewhere in scripture, it's what fits the text globally. ALL context must be taken into account, not just the parts that we find convenient.
    by midnightlynx83 at 01/19/14 11:23AM

Grr. Argh. Sigh. Etc.

Last night, while looking for a wedding location online, my computer was attacked by a virus. I'm still working on fixing it, because the usual methods aren't working. My laptop is six years old and having lots of problem: the mouse pad doesn't work (I prefer a real mouse anyway, so it's more of an annoyance), the fan and heatsink have been replaced, and the new fan isn't working well anymore either, the keyboard sometimes fails to work (have you ever used a computer without a keyboard? hard!), some of the usb ports don't work, and it's routinely attacked by viruses (that even the best virus protection can't defend against), etc, etc, etc. It's time for a new laptop, before I lose important documents and whatnot, but that's not really affordable at the moment (I'm borrowing a roommate's computer to write this post).

In other, more difficult to swallow news, my mom does not approve of my upcoming marriage to Ben. It's not really about Ben, it's the same old argument about my choice to leave Catholicism and become a servant of God. She blames the church for pretty much everything that we've disagreed upon since then: christmas, easter, clothing choices, language choices, not immediately agreeing to be a surrogate mother if my sister can't have children (she's not married, isn't planning on kids anytime soon (I'm not going to give away my womb for 9 months on a whim, especially if I'm married, without lots of consideration and talking to my husband first)), that my wedding guest list comes primarily from my church, etc, etc, etc.

I am tired. I am angry. I am broken-hearted. I am wanting to stay home and sleep for the rest of the day because I didn't sleep much last night.

I want to bemoan my fate and pout and wallow and generally behave badly and selfishly and eat lots of chocolate.

Instead, I will go to work, smile, keep planning my wedding, not eat chocolate because I don't have any (sad, sad day), and keep in the forefront of my mind that I was called out of darkness and into His marvelous light and that's where I'm staying.

It's the only place I want to be.
  • cyber_space_cadet
    About the computer: I can relate entirely and it's so :-/

    About your mom's attitude: That is JUST heartbreaking. I was afraid something like this might happen. I will pray.

    About your attitude: Very happy for your growth and your trust in Him, and pray that you can just put all of this baggage in His hands and journey on knowing that we ALL have things in our lives that He carries FOR us...because WE JUST CAN'T.

    Love you so much, Sabrina.
    by cyber_space_cadet at 03/26/12 7:43AM
  • sirtarin
    Glad to hear that you are maintaining a good outlook, in spite of your difficulties with your mother.
    by sirtarin at 03/26/12 12:02PM
  • pandora
    Hugs and lots and lots of love, dearest girl. And from one Beaver to another, there are times that when you feel sad, it is ok and not selfish to be sad, and act sad, and tell other people you are sad. I can't condone wallowing, of course. But I can and DO condone chocolate and as much rest as necessary. I love you.
    by pandora at 03/26/12 12:31PM
  • pandora
    Oh, and btw...I think you should get married where Jeremy and I did, at the community center at (gasp) a LIBRARY. ;-)
    by pandora at 03/26/12 12:50PM
  • liseybug
    Love you! And I still think of you when I look at my big green tractor sitting on my desk : )
    by liseybug at 04/03/12 7:37PM
  • deputyheadmistress
    I am so sorry about your mom and the turmoil. I am so sorry for your mom. I wish she knew what you know.
    by deputyheadmistress at 04/07/12 2:54PM
  • cyber_space_cadet
    ^ YES. YES. YES. ^
    by cyber_space_cadet at 04/07/12 6:15PM
  • narnianheart
    Awww...i'm sorry!! I love you!!!
    by narnianheart at 04/12/12 2:50PM

Shhh...(part 2)

So. I bet you're all wondering what the secret is.

Actually, as she astutely claimed, it's probably not a secret if everyone knows.

But, in case there is someone who doesn't know (which is doubtful at this point)...

....I'm engaged!

:D !!!
  • cyber_space_cadet
    (It wasn't pretty, but it was sincere.)
    by cyber_space_cadet at 03/17/12 12:59AM
  • pandora
    Thank-you for letting me call and interrupt your announcing proceedings yesterday. Hugs! I love you so much,.
    by pandora at 03/17/12 10:38AM
  • deputyheadmistress
    I think that we are at least as giddy for you two as you are for yourselves.
    by deputyheadmistress at 03/17/12 10:42AM
  • deputyheadmistress
    By the way, LJ totally called this months ago, down to the general timing of the wedding.
    by deputyheadmistress at 03/17/12 10:43AM
  • sirtarin
    Did I know? No. Did I strongly suspect? Yes. =)

    Congratulations! =D
    by sirtarin at 03/17/12 11:33AM
  • narnianheart
    Oh yeah! oh yeah! oh yeah! I knew before you did! uh huh uh huh uh huh! oh yeah oh yeah!

    Oh, and congrats! haha!
    by narnianheart at 03/17/12 7:52PM
  • preciousgoldring
    by preciousgoldring at 03/17/12 8:05PM