our hermeneutic: direct command, approved example, and necessary inference
Does it apply to worship service, daily walk, both, or either one depending on the context?
Christians are the church individually and collectively. But the church operates differently as individuals than it does collectively.
As the church as individual christians we act on direct command, Biblical examples, and necessary inference. But there aren't enough examples in the Bible to justify or authorized everything we do. And so we act on Biblical principles.
The church as a collective when assembled together does not act upon the same principles taught that christians individually should follow but instead only acts upon the few examples given in the NT, direct command, and necessary inference and thats it. When it comes to the church as an assembly, the silence of the Scriptures is suddenly binding, unlike with individuals.
There is a fine line drawn between the two. My question is, did God draw that line and if so how would you defend your answer?
I appreciate the discussion so far.
Wayne brings up a good point when he says, "If God is disinterested in the issue, I don't really want to have to face Him for having spent my life condemning people to hell for it. And if God is displeased with it, I don't want to have done it. The bible simply does not tell us about instruments in NT worship, much less about listening to recorded Christian music.
I've heard people talk about how the silence of the Scriptures is binding and prohibitive, ("it says sing, and that excludes everything else") but if silence is TRULY binding, then where is the authority for a building? Where is the authority for a million other things we do that aren't talked about in the bible? These are questions that cannot be answered adequately, and as a result, artificial principles of exegesis are imposed on the text to try to justify existing practices, each with their own set of buzzwords ("General" vs. "specific" authority?)."
How does this Jive with 2 Tim 3?
A synopsis: "In the last days perilous times will come.." probably referring to that time all the way to present time. Basically men will seek after worldy things instead of godly things. V10 Paul says to Timothy he has carefully followed his doctrine and way of life and that it lead to persecution and yes, all who live godly in Christ will suffer such. And its only going to get worse and worse v13. V14 "But you must continue in the things which you have been assured of, knowing from whom you have learned them...." V15-17 : the Holy Scriptures make one wise to salvation, and thoroughly equip us for every good work.
The question: how do you apply this passage with the argument of the silence of the Scriptures (trying to keep it in context of course)?
Things are going well for me, training is going well. I'm so glad summer is approaching. I love Spring and the green and colors of the trees.
well, lets discuss things:
when the church slit it went two ways: the socialistic gospel and the doctrinal gospel. I think we know which the coC is. If there is one thing I've learned throughout life its this: there are two sides to everything, and the truth is always somewhere in the middle.
For the New Testament to have been written so differently from a book of legalism such as Deuteronomy, we sure treat it like one. I do think we are to legalistic in our interpretation of the NT. Jesus said his followers would worship Him in Spirit and in Truth. He also says he is the way, the truth, and the life. Jesus is the truth, basically, we need to worship in truth....in JESUS, not the letter of the law. If we were intended to worship according to the letter of the law there would have been a rule or law book written such as Deuteronomy for us to follow explaining the dimensions of our buildings and acts of worship. That is NOT the NT, why treat it that way?
When you are as legalistic as we are you get to the point where you have to conclude that praise and worship with instruments is sinful and therefore its sinful to listen to christian music, and people like Jeremy Camp and Casting Crowns. What do you say? that your NOT worshiping or praising God in ANY WAY when you listen and sing a long with it?? And yet you must conclude it is a sin to even listen to christian music whith the legalistic approach most take. I cant get over that, im sorry.
(a good friend and brother brought this to my attention recently)
where was the church meeting when Paul said, "do you not have homes to eat and drink in?"