02/07/10 8:01PM

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    1 John 4:7-11: The Treatise on Love Begins

    Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is begotten of God, and knoweth God. He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love. Herein was the love of God manifested in us, that God hath sent his only begotten Son into the world that we might live through him. Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins. Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another (1 John 4:7-11).

    John has discussed many themes in the first four chapters of his letter: to do what is right and avoid the wrong (1 John 1:1-2:6, 3:1-10), to avoid those who teach false doctrines-- in particular, the growing number of Gnostic teachers (1 John 2:12-29, 4:1-6), and to love one another (1 John 2:7-11, 3:11-24).

    Beginning in 1 John 4:7, John returns to the theme of loving one another, and thus begins his treatise on love (1 John 4:7-21). It remains one of the most compelling and beautiful passages of Scripture ever written.

    The treatise seems to flow from 1 John 4:5-6 in which John demonstrates that we are of God and we know the spirit of truth. Since we are of God and should know the spirit of truth, it follows that we should love one another.

    John gives a compelling reason for why we should love one another in verse 7: love is of God, and those who love are born of God and know God. In verse 8, John makes it clear that those who do not love do not know God, and this is because God is love.

    This last statement is justly famous, and we must respect what John says. God is love-- it is not, "love is God." God provides us the definition and manifestation of love. That manifestation, as John makes clear, is that He sent His Son so that we might live through Him and to be the propitiation for our sins (1 John 4:8-9). Such love is not selfishly motivated or seeking one's own gain but is entirely and thoroughly devoted to the needs of those whom are loved (cf. 1 Corinthians 13:4-8). Furthermore, it is not as if we deserved this love or had acted becomingly-- instead, we all were weak, sinful, and thoroughly undeserving of God's love, mercy, or grace (cf. Romans 5:5-11). This is why love is in "this"-- it is not that we have loved God, but in that God has loved us. It makes sense for us to love God, just as it makes sense for children to love parents: God has given us so much, and our love is in response to His gifts. But there is no similar explanation for God's love toward us.

    Therefore, if we seek to understand love, we look to God and see how He has commended His love toward us. He provided us with the creation and the blessings of life (cf. Genesis 1:1-2:4). Even though we sinned, He was willing to suffer the loss necessary for our reconciliation so that we might live toward Him. Everything God has ever done or will ever do flows from His love, be it His love for humans, for justice, or for other godly and wholesome attributes.

    It is not surprising, then, for John to uphold love as the most excellent virtue and the ultimate standard (cf. 1 Corinthians 13:13). Love and the knowledge of God are mutually consistent; but if one does not have love, one clearly does not know God, for love undergirds everything for which God stands and represents. Love is of God, because He provides the definition for seeking the best interest of others.

    John then sets forth the challenge for all of us in verse 11: if God has so loved us, we should love one another. This is entirely sensible-- after all, we seek to be godly people, and if God is love, we must be people marked by love!

    Yet the challenge remains. We humans find it easy to love those who love us and who do good for us (cf. Matthew 5:46-47). That is why it is comparatively easy for us to love God the Father and His Son Jesus Christ when we recognize just how much They have done on our behalf and for our good. But it is not enough to just love those who love us. We must also love those who would do us harm and evil (cf. Matthew 5:43-45), just as God loved us when we were most unlovable.

    Yes, John says that our love should be for "one another," and in the most limited sense, that refers to fellow brothers and sisters in Christ. But the same love must be shown to our "neighbor" (cf. Romans 13:8-11), and Jesus makes it clear in Luke 10:25-37 that "our neighbor" ought to be anyone and everyone. We must remember that John is setting God forth as the ultimate demonstration and manifestation of love, and we must pattern our lives after Him. He has loved without partiality, seeking the best for all people according to His righteousness, justice, truth, and mercy (cf. Romans 5:5-11, 6:1-23). Let us seek to do the same, and seek the best interest for everyone in our lives!

    Ethan R. Longhenry


  • Deliver me from all my transgressions. Do not make me the scorn of the fool!

    Greetings, everyone.

    Peace, mercy, and grace be with you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.



    I recognize that I haven't posted a whole lot recently. That seems to be the new normal. Busy, busy, busy.

    We switched phone providers and now have BlackBerrys. As if I am not on the Internet enough, I know. But it is useful. It's like I've attained yuppiehood. I'm still not that into texting and I find thumb typing on obnoxiously small keys tiresome.

    I went to the dentist today for the first time in 5 years. I actually have cavities for the first time in my life-- two small ones, one in each of my back bottom teeth. I'll have to get them filled in the somewhat near future, but since my dental insurance actually pays for things, it won't be that big of a deal. Tomorrow my wife and daughters go and see said dentist. It's the first time the girls have seen a dentist. Yes, that probably makes me a bad parent. But hey-- this is the first time in my adult life I have been able to get dental insurance on top of health insurance and afford it.

    In other news, I should be reading more than I am, but since I'm carrying on three different sets of studies (weekday Hebrew/Greek studies, now in Psalms; Galatians for adult Bible class; Mark for nursing home), it's fairly understandable. I'm extremely behind with Julianna in history, but trying to make that up a little bit.

    Actually, I feel behind with pretty much everything except the standard weekly work. And I'm irritated with my old health insurance company, tire of even the effort necessary in handling finances, and really not looking forward to taxes.

    It's a normal February! :D



    Book reading update.

    I have finished one book-- The Forgiveness Solution by Philip Friedman. The only reason I have this book is because I won it through LibraryThing Early Reviewers.

    The author discusses how, in his estimation, true forgiveness of self and others is critical for complete wholeness. Therefore, the book is devoted to tests analyzing where one stands in the forgiveness spectrum, and then describes various exercises through which one can be at ease in forgiving self and others. The exercises include guided imagery, self-expression, meditation, and pressure points.

    The "new age" part of the book would be off-putting to many people-- the secularists for believing in something beyond the material, and the religious for being a bit Eastern in viewpoint. On the other hand, I've begun in general to wonder regarding the existence of spiritual power/force/energy and how that may relate to our physical world based on study/experience. The pressure point thing, while making one look rather stupid if others are present, does have a form of relaxing power.

    Unfortunately, the author comes at many things in the exact opposite way than he should. One of his affirmations involves the idea that we are all really, deep down, innocent creatures, when the Bible would say that we are all really, deep down, guilty creatures. We're unified not in innocence but guilt.

    Nevertheless, the power of forgiveness and the golden rule pervade the book, and the book provides methodologies that may be of value in accomplishing forgiveness and the golden rule in life. But there's a lot of ridiculousness in the book too.

    Now reading: The Poetry of Prayer: Tehillim in Tefillah by Rabbi Avi Baumol. Yes, it's an early review book, but this comes from the publisher. This is what happens when you (a) have a working knowledge of Hebrew and Judaism and (b) are willing to do book reviews. But hey, I'm studying in Psalms, and such a perspective is interesting in terms of history of interpretation if nothing else.



    May the peace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with your spirits.

    ELDV
    • mjintexas
      Dental insurance is a GOOD thing. Glad you have it!
      by mjintexas at 02/04/10 10:36AM
    • holly_ann
      The book sounds interesting. I've been thinking a lot about spiritual forces and energies as well.
      by holly_ann at 02/05/10 9:02AM
    • slave_of_jesus_jdb
      The DRILL!!!!
      by slave_of_jesus_jdb at 02/06/10 7:21PM

    Recantation of Political Participation

    If others partake of this right over you, do not we yet more? Nevertheless we did not use this right; but we bear all things, that we may cause no hindrance to the gospel of Christ (1 Corinthians 9:12).

    For some time I have defended the Christian's ability to vote and to thus participate in the political domain as a liberty-- taking concrete action to promote peace and tranquility for the Kingdom (1 Timothy 2:1-2). I have also established that the choice to vote for a particular political candidate is also a matter of liberty, based on the individual believer's sober judgment in regards to a given politician and their belief as to whether he or she would best uphold peace and tranquility for the Kingdom (1 Timothy 2:1-2). I, myself, have participated in such processes.

    Nevertheless, on the basis of further study and examination of the current political climate, the ways in which Christians are participating in the political realm, and the impact of all such things on the health and promotion of the Kingdom, I feel compelled to now recant of my participation in the political processes of the United States and to eschew any such future participation for the sake of promoting God's Kingdom, and I would like for my fellow believers to soberly consider their own participation in this process and its implications and consequences.

    As it is written,

    Therefore let us also, seeing we are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us (Hebrews 12:1).

    Participation in the political realm easily turns into, if nothing else, a "weight," and can also turn into "sin," and all too often hinders our effectiveness in promoting God's Kingdom because of dual loyalties.

    As Jesus indicated in regards to God and Mammon in Matthew 6:24, "no man can serve two masters." This is no less true in the political realm. It is easy to get passionately involved in politics and voting and find oneself in morally hazardous terrain.

    I feel compelled to establish first and foremost that politicians and the political systems boast of greater power and effectiveness than they can deliver, and Christians should not be fooled into believing their claims. There is no effective deliverance or salvation from evil on account of political action. God has made it very clear how people are saved:

    For I am not ashamed of the gospel: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek (Romans 1:16).

    For a time in human history, God worked through a particular physical nation, Israel. The new covenant in Christ, however, stands as a clear repudiation of the idea that one particular earthly nation can be "God's nation," for God has people who belong to Him from many nations (John 18:36, Galatians 3:28). In the new covenant, salvation and deliverance does not come through acts of legislation or government mandates-- it can only come through the promotion and acceptance of the Gospel of Christ!

    A country could theoretically have God's laws enshrined as their own laws, but such is never a guarantee that people are following those laws. Furthermore, how can there be any guarantee that legislation leads people to the knowledge of God in Christ? What would be gained if all the laws of the land were made to conform to God's laws, but not a soul was converted in the process? It would all be to no avail!

    There are no commands, examples, or inferences in the New Testament that would lead us to believe that God saves anyone through the political process. There are no guidelines in the New Testament for establishing a "Christian nation." Furthermore, there is no evidence from the New Testament that any of the believers of the day-- Jesus, the Apostles, or anyone else-- depended upon or worked through the political system to advance God's purposes. The closest example we have is Paul using his Roman citizenship to avoid beatings and to be granted an audience with Caesar, a moment he intended to use to promote the Gospel (cf. Acts 22:25-29, 23:11, 25:10-11).

    Therefore, any belief that God's purposes are going to be best served by devoting our efforts and resources to the political sphere are misguided. Politics are part of this world that is declared vanity by the Preacher (Ecclesiastes 1:2), and politics are indeed vanity. Should we devote our time, energy, and resources to vanity and striving after wind or after the spiritual treasures which will not perish (cf. Matthew 6:19-20)?

    Most will declare that the Kingdom should come first, of course, but then that there is no difficulty also doing what one can in the political realm to advance God's purposes.

    But we must ask the question-- can God's purposes ever be really advanced in the political realm, and is it really profitable to throw oneself into the political sphere?

    Politics is a dirty endeavor, full of compromises and moral hazards. And when people with great moral integrity who seek to stand for God's values begin to enmesh themselves with politics, the darkness far too often proves too strong for the light!

    Politics is not for the truly principled, and participation in the political realm as is invites moral compromise. Most recognize that voting ends up being choosing the "lesser of two evils," but notice that means that we are choosing an evil!

    And herein is the inconsistency in political participation. There are a few people who stand by their integrity and participate in politics: they will only vote for candidates who have a fully Biblical stance on morality. But if you vote for anyone from the two major parties, you are by necessity compromising moral stances, because neither political party upholds God's system of morality.

    The most damaging element of politics that I fear is causing great pain for the Kingdom involves party ideology. Too many Christians seem more than willing to align themselves with a given political party and to defend and justify whatever that party happens to do while excoriating and lambasting the other party no matter what they may do.

    If a candidate of the opposing party has public moral failings, those are highlighted and condemned. But if a candidate from the "acceptable" party has public moral failings, such is ignored, minimized, or blunted with talk of forgiveness and the like.

    If the time is convenient to push regarding a "moral" argument, any candidate who does not accept the truth regarding that "moral" argument is accursed. But if there are other, more pressing political issues, even a candidate from the "acceptable" party who does not hold to that particular "moral" argument can be justified. Furthermore, if one were to vote for a candidate from the "other" party who does not accept the truth regarding that "moral" argument, such is a sin, but if one votes for a candidate from the "acceptable" party who also does not accept the truth regarding that "moral" argument, it is understood that one voted for their other positions and not for their position on that "moral" argument.

    Whatever political shenanigans the "other" party engages in shows how corrupt, evil, and debased they are, but the political shenanigans of the "acceptable" party are always justifiable.

    Nothing evil can be said about candidates from the "acceptable" party, but it is always open season on the "other" party.

    The people in the "other" party are always out for the destruction of everything we hold dear, while the people in the "acceptable" party always act sincerely in what they believe to be the best interest of this nation.

    These types of attitudes and actions are hypocritical to the extreme and shameful. They indicate just how far politics can go in dividing people and alienating people. I am ashamed to say that I myself have participated at times in such arguments and have at times spoken improperly to my fellow brethren regarding such profitless and worthless disputations, and for that I have repented and continue to repent.

    Consider what the New Testament says in contrast to what happens today.

    Render to no man evil for evil. Take thought for things honorable in the sight of all men (Romans 12:17).

    Honor all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the king (1 Peter 2:17).


    God says that we should take thought for what is honorable in the sight of all and that we should honor all men. If we engage in partisan character attacks and speak evilly of people with whom we disagree politically, are we acting in honorable ways? Do we show that we honor all men, even those with political opinions with which we differ, through such discussions and statements?

    Put them in mind to be in subjection to rulers, to authorities, to be obedient, to be ready unto every good work, to speak evil of no man, not to be contentious, to be gentle, showing all meekness toward all men (Titus 3:1-2).

    Putting away therefore all wickedness, and all guile, and hypocrisies, and envies, and all evil speakings (1 Peter 2:1).


    God also makes evident that we are to not speak evil of anyone, and yet it seems to be par for the course to assume that the people in power with whom we disagree clearly have evil intentions. The same benefit of the doubt that are given to one group are never given to others.

    Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honorable, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things (Philippians 4:8).

    Paul here emphasizes the importance of devoting our minds to the things that are good and pleasing. He indicates that we must take thought as to what we take into ourselves in terms of information and where we obtain that information. There are many venues of information out there whose purpose is to promote a certain worldview and to alienate and malign any other perspective. All kinds of form of manipulation are used to distort reality in order to conform to the narrative of choice. This is done from both sides of the political spectrum, but as Christians, we should say enough, and no longer allow ourselves to be filled with messages that divide, alienate, and do not lead to peace!

    Are we entirely ignorant of what the great push toward political participation has done to the Kingdom? Do we not see how our conduct among the Gentiles has been less than honorable because we have allowed ourselves to be wrapped into this pointless, futile contest of wills?

    Regardless of where you live in America, odds are that between 45-65% of the population does not agree with your political preference, if you have gone along with one of the two major parties. If we push political messages, however consciously or unconsciously, are we not hindering our effectiveness in reaching 45-65% of those around us with the message that is really important?

    What if the intense political participation that is manifest in Bible class discussions, stray comments from the pulpit, bulletin articles, Facebook statuses, blog posts, and the like, were responsible for pushing some people away from the Gospel message? How should we feel if we are allowing something as trivial and as unimportant as politics to get in the way from them learning of the truth of God?

    I am sure that if such comments were made in regards to passion regarding sports teams or food preferences or some other such thing, we would all recognize how damaging that would be. How is politics any different?

    If the political climate presents constant temptation to demonize my fellow man because of his different political beliefs, how is that going to help me break down barriers and to show him the love of Christ?

    If I am pushing a particular political agenda, and the person with whom I am trying to show the Gospel already has a preconceived notion of the way Christians are based on that political agenda, is that political agenda going to assist or hinder my work?

    If all the energy, time, money, and other resources that Christians expend in the political arena were redirected toward the promotion of the Gospel of Christ and the demonstration of love and compassion for our fellow man, how much further could Christ's cause be advanced?

    I want to be clear: I am not condemning anyone for participating in the political process if they so choose. That remains a liberty even if I no longer practice it. This does not mean that I will cease from ever speaking about politics, especially when it comes to the intersection of politics and the Kingdom. I also recognize that many are able to keep their political views and their religious views separate, do not make a big deal about their political views, and certainly do not make their political views tests of fellowship, and for such brethren I am thankful.

    Nevertheless, I have some questions that I believe merit consideration.

    Has any soul been saved because of Christian participation in the political realm?

    How, in any measurable spiritual way, has the Kingdom of God been advanced by Christian participation in the political realm?

    How much damage has been done to the Kingdom by Christians participating in the political realm and getting caught up in evil surmisings, dishonorable words and actions, and antagonism toward people of a different political persuasion?

    How many souls have been alienated from the commonwealth of Christ on account of the forceful presentation of the political opinions of Christians?

    How has politics built up and encouraged the Lord's Body? In how many ways have politics instead torn down and distressed the Lord's Body?

    If there is so much lost because of political participation, and so little gained, how can it ever be considered profitable for Christians to engage in it?

    I have considered these questions and I cannot help but decide that political participation is not profitable when it comes to advancing the agenda of the Lord of all. Our fight is not with Democrats or Republicans or Independents or even with al-Qaeda or Iraq or terrorists or homosexuals or atheists-- Paul makes it clear that our fight is not with flesh and blood (Ephesians 6:12). Instead, our fight is with "the principalities, against the powers, against the world-rulers of this darkness, against the spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places" (Ephesians 6:12). And those powers of darkness are well-served by Christians expending their energy fighting the futile fight of politics and losing ground in the good, necessary, and eternally consequent fight.

    ELDV
    • deusvitae
      I tend not to judge why people vote the way they do unless they actually say the reasons for their voting.

      And, since you asked, Wes, "oppressing the poor" is not an issue of "not giving them money" as much as pursuing policies that provide benefits to the wealthy to the detriment of the poor. Voting against checks and balances in the system designed to protect the interests of the poor against the interests of the wealthy can be viewed as oppressing the poor. Just because the wealthy and corporate interests find loopholes and do things "legally" does not make it ethically right.

      And I never said that you were a Republican. I said that you voted Republican, which you yourself admitted. The point still stands:

      If true Biblical morality is the standard, then no one can vote for politicians in the Democratic or Republican parties.

      If true Biblical morality is not the standard, then there is no substantive basis to argue the superiority of one moral compromise over another moral compromise. Sin is sin.
      by deusvitae at 01/21/10 5:50PM
    • godswarrior32803
      And Ethan, I did not say I voted Republican. I said I won't vote democrat. Evey one else keep saying that I am republican.
      by godswarrior32803 at 01/21/10 6:13PM
    • godswarrior32803
      Ethan, as far as compromise is concerned, I can vote without compromising my moral values. II once made that mistake and have regretted it ever since. I do not believe that I should ever choose the lesser of two evils. I firmly believe that if you cannot stand behind a person, when it comes to what they vote for on God's laws, you should not be voting for them. If it is homosexual marriage, the murder of children, or whatever you might believe is a moral issue that a candidate supports you should not vote for him/her.


      by godswarrior32803 at 01/21/10 8:25PM
    • grizzlytwelve
      What if a political candidate supports the right to commit adultery? You know, like Ronald Reagan or Fred Thompson?

      What if he supports the right to practice a denominational religion? You know, like George W. Bush?

      All such things (and many others) violate God's law and many of our most beloved conservatives support ideologies that are entirely inconsistent with Biblical teaching. If one cannot make concessions in terms of voting for a particlar candidate inspite of disagreement over significant issues that include areas in which various parts of God's law are rejected by the individual, then I do not see how we could vote for anyone. To make absolutely no compromise in who we vote for would be to do exactly as has been suggested...do not vote at all.

      There is considerable merit to many of the points that Ethan makes. The more that I think about the current political system, the more I am uncomfortable with participating in it.
      by grizzlytwelve at 01/21/10 9:24PM
    • onelittlecandle
      Good thoughts, and things I'll be contemplating further. Knowing you, Ethan, I'm sure you studied and considered the topic very carefully and earnestly before coming to a conclusion. I respect you for that! You also manage to generate more discussion on your blog on worthwhile topics than anyone else I know. :-)

      It made me think of a couple things I wanted to share... under your first point, where you said that participation in the political realm can easily turn into a weight or sin...is that not the same with many other things in life (health, exercise, hobbies) and we simply must exercise self-control and not allow it to take priority over God? We don't drop exercise merely because it might become a weight and sin. We keep it in perspective. But if one personally can't do so, then they are justified in avoiding it. If one can't, literally can't, keep politics in a proper perspective and behave in a godly manner, then avoiding then would be good. But we really ought to learn to keep ourselves under control. (Which is something you touched on farther down in your post.)

      And regarding the second point you made, we're under a totally different governing system now. One that allows its citizens much more freedom than those in the NT times had. It gives us just that much more opportunity to make a difference for good by using our votes! I imagine that the NT christians would have greatly welcomed the opportunity to make their morality and beliefs "heard." If everyone professing to believe in God shared the viewpoint that they ought not to vote or participate in the political realm at all, then where would we be? I don't think it would be anywhere good.

      Proverbs 14:34 says "Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people." In whatever nation we live in, under whatever government we serve, as christians our respnsibility is to do good and shine our lights in whatever manner we can. In our nation, voting is one of many possible ways to do so. However, it's not the only way, and we ought to be keeping busy serving God and others in every way we can! :)
      by onelittlecandle at 01/22/10 7:04AM
    • deusvitae
      Either the New Testament is our standard and we go by that standard or we do not. I cannot share in the optimism that the New Testament Christians would have certainly participated in the political system in the day if they had the chance-- Paul had many liberties in that area because of his citizenship and yet we have no indication that he ever used them.

      I also am not sure how it can be so certainly established that we can "do good" by using voting, especially considering the moral hazards present in both major political parties. Furthermore, are not politics vanity? What will remain of politics and legislative decision when the LORD puts this world to the torch (cf. 2 Peter 3:8-12)?
      by deusvitae at 01/22/10 9:18AM
    • aaron_nic
      Great post, Ethan. And kudos for not binding your personal position on anyone else. And I have to say that it absolutely breaks my heart that there are Christians who have added step 6: "Don't vote Democratic" to the plan of salvation. This proves your point in so many ways it would be hilarious if it weren't so sad.
      by aaron_nic at 01/22/10 11:23AM
    • themoodypreacher
      Very interesting thoughts Ethan.

      While I agree that many put more passion into their politics than they do their faith, let us be careful in our zeal to run from Rome that we do not run past Jerusalem. If all good men took your stance, who do you think would rule the lands? If all good men stand on the sidelines, how long do you think it would take for any shred of morality to exist (Prov. 14:34)? If all good men withdrew and decided not to vote, how long do you believe it would be before we would not be able to live "quiet and peaceable lives in all godliness and reverence" (1 Tim. 1:2)?

      When I look at 1 Timothy 2:1-2, I don't just see authority to participate in the political process (though many go far beyond what is healthy participation for a Christian in my opinion), I see a mandate that instructs us how best to participate. It doesn't explicitly go into details as to who to vote for, how to vote, or even whether to vote, etc. etc.. There are many other Biblical principles to govern us on those points, but it does exhort us to first and foremost "pray" for those who are leading (regardless of party affiliation) with the end in mind "that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and reverence." The text tells us this is good because God "desires all men to be saved and come to a knowledge of the truth." I see this as our end goal because the Holy Spirit, albeit in some small way, has made a connection between the our prayers for those in authority and the salvation of souls. I don't claim to have all the answers as to how exactly they are related, but I do believe that any goal that falls short of this simply falls short.

      Now, lest I be misunderstood. I believe people often "idolize" politics in their life in that they give it a higher place than God, let alone their brethren from "across the aisle" who do not share the same priorities in their politics (which is more important anyway, the life of the unborn or seeing to the needs of the poor or punishing terrorists or fixing healthcare and the economy?). Such treatment of our brethren is sinful and wrong, let alone the treatment of our enemies (Matt. 5:43-48). But by living faithful lives, voting to the best of our conscientious ability (i.e., honoring the King), and standing for the right (despite political affiliation), among many other righteous acts, folks are participating in the political process in a healthy way. Opposing abortion and fighting for the life of those not yet born by talking one person out of this heinous act gives a soul a chance at salvation. Opposing oppression and terrorism and fighting for the oppressed and afflicted gives souls a chance at salvation. Opposing sin ... period ... in all of its forms and fighting for righteousness is what our walk in this world is all about. If we can live in a place where man's laws harmonized with God's laws, is that not the answering of the prayers we offer based on 1 Timothy 2:1-2? Jesus did not tell the tax collectors in his day to cease being tax collectors, nor the centurions, or other government officials, he simply instructed them to do it righteously. Our weapons are far different than the weapons of this world. "Politics" is not a weapon for the Christian, but the sword of truth is. Christians will not change the world one vote at a time, they must change it one soul at a time. Nevertheless, that does not mean one should not vote so that they may have the opportunity to reach one soul.

      So, I say all this to say that I agree that folks need to regain their perspective and balance when it comes to such matters. I disagree in that I am not so sure that repudiating the political process that we can lawfully avail ourselves of is the best solution to finding that balance. I do appreciate that you do not bind this position, but am concerned that others will run with you making the same choice. Perhaps there is a better solution to the problem you rightly identify...
      by themoodypreacher at 01/22/10 6:02PM
    • grizzlytwelve
      I don't know...it seems like we want it both ways.

      We want to say that politics are not the Christians "weapon" but then we want to turn around and use politics to indirectly advance the cause of Christ and we encourage each other to participate on that basis. Perhaps I am missing something, but there seems to be an inherent contradiction in the reasoning. The distinctions seem more a matter of semantics and terminology as opposed to substantive.

      Again though, if we say that we voting on the basis of "opposing sin" and then turn around and support candidates that themselves openly support and practice various forms of sin, have we really "opposed sin...period"? Or have we just compromised our convictions because we prefered the low-tax/small-government policies of our candidate of choice? One of the inconsistencies that has always irked to me to no end is the reverence that we bestow upon Ronald Reagan coupled with our loathing of Bill Clinton. Everybody was up in arms over the fact that Clinton committed adultery and lied about it but nobody seemed to care that Reagan was living adultery the entire eight years that he was in office (the man was divorced and remarried). Still, Reagan is our political hero and Clinton is regarded as a piece of garbage. Why? Not because one was immoral and the other was not but because we liked Reagans economic policies. Surely we can see the massive inconsistency in this.

      As far as being able to live in a place where "man's laws harmonize with God's law", we are probably kidding ourselves. One, I don't know that God's word has called upon us to harmize the two laws. Two, I do not know that we can ever fully make man's law harmonize with God's law and still be keeping God's law. If that were the case, then we would be imposing the moral law of the gospel by means of force and such is prohibited (Matt. 10:14-15; 15:13-14).

      The fact remains that the voter must choose which parts of God's laws he believes should be upheld/enforced in the political arena and which ones should be allowed to slide. I don't know anybody who "opposes sin...period" in the voting process. We may oppose one candidate who supports a particular sin, but we always seem to turn around and hold hands with another cadidate who supports another type of sin. There is not much consistency in either our logic or our practice.

      Praying for our government is one thing...jumping right into the political arena is another thing.
      by grizzlytwelve at 01/22/10 8:31PM
    • themoodypreacher
      Grizzly, perhaps I did not make myself clear. Just to clarify a few points...

      1) Observe that I put "politics" in quotes for a reason. "Politics" does not imply truth. However, if a politician is speaking the truth, should I oppose it based on his morality or should I encourage it because it is the truth? If moral perfection is the mark (or even 100% agreement on all points), then no man is qualified to fill a role in government. The weapon a Christian should depend upon is the truth. Unfortunately, more often than not, at least these days, it seems truth and "politics" are on opposite ends of the spectrum. I fail to see the contradiction in reasoning.

      2) I used the phrase "opposing sin ... period" in a context. You pulled that statement from its context to argue against a point I never made. Do you deny that sometimes the fight for righteousness is won one battle at a time? If I can vote for a candidate or candidates that will save the lives of a few unborn children, then I will cast that vote. I fully recognize that no man is perfect and that I doubt I would find any man whom I agree with 100% who is running for public office (consider 1 Cor. 5:10 in light of this). Does that mean I should attack brethren who disagree with me on my priority of issues (which the OP rightly points out as a problem)? Does that necessitate to not vote at all? Does that make me inconsistent? I agree that one who would point out the flaws of one while ignoring the flaws of another is naive and inconsistent. I have never suggested doing such. My vote is not a vote for their salvation, but to fill an God ordained office--government (Rom. 13:1-7) in a way that allows us to live quiet and peaceable lives (1 Tim. 2:1-2).

      3) I agree. This world will never be heaven. Man's laws will never harmonize entirely with God's law and I never said they would or should. The simple point I made is that it is our prayer that leaders will write laws that allow us to live godly and peaceable lives. So, if individual laws are written that harmonize with God's laws, let us rejoice. If laws are written that oppose God's laws, then let us vote for those who oppose them. Sometimes my vote is not necessarily for a person, but against another person. I believe that is a viable option too.

      4) As I said, if I agree with a man on his view of adultery, does it necessarily follow that I agree with him on every view he holds? I don't see why the standard must be all or nothing here.

      5) Nobody suggested "jumping into political arena" ... I simply suggested that being balanced and careful in our perspective about politics is probably the wiser course than repudiating the entire process altogether. I don't think it is overly wise to get too involved in the affairs of this world (2 Tim. 2:11), but neither should we ignore them.
      by themoodypreacher at 01/22/10 9:15PM
    • deusvitae
      1 Timothy 2:1-2 is an important passage, but I do not see where the idea of praying for peace and tranquility for the Kingdom, by necessity, must lead to some kind of action. Our prayer is to God for persons in authority-- God can do things on account of prayer that we cannot do in any form of action in voting or the like. No "good men" in a Biblical sense were voting in Rome, and yet Peter and Paul could promote the Kingdom. I'm also "radical" enough to question as to whether a lack of persecution is really a good thing or if it leads to complacency. God remains in charge, however things may turn out.

      This country is of the world and will pass away along with the world (1 John 2:15-17). I don't see the correlation between withdrawal from the political process leading to some kind of "nuclear option" of total ungodliness. Furthermore, since the Bible does not address political participation, and nowhere assumes that Christians would be active in political participation, it need not have anything to do with "balance." I'm all for "balance in all things," and proclaim that message in many contexts. But there is always some kind of benefit to the matter concerning which there is to be "balance." The benefit of engaging in the political process has not yet been established.

      Furthermore, it has not been established that (a) participating in the political process really leads to standing up for what is truly and completely good, and (b) that God really intended us in the new covenant to be involved in a political process. In reality, He has been silent about it. Is it a matter of liberty? Certainly. But, as in every matter of liberty, the liberty can be fully repudiated if circumstances warrant. And considering the circumstances, there are circumstances that fully warrant it.
      by deusvitae at 01/22/10 9:34PM
    • themoodypreacher
      Ethan, you make some interesting points.

      God is in control and can bring about good whether we vote or not, whether we act or not. But, as faith without works is dead, so often in prayer without action. We can pray all day long for God to give increase to our crops, but if we plant no seed, well... are we really asking in faith? I do believe that we must back our prayers with faith, and that faith must be coupled with works to be justified.

      I must also admit that I am "radical" enough to believe, and have said it from the pulpit, that I am not sure if a lack of persecution makes for the strongest of Christians, and that persecution would certainly thin the ranks of those who do not really believe. However, I trust that God knows best. He asked us to pray as He did in 1 Tim. 2:1-2. He knows best.

      I also agree that this world is passing. I never suggested a "nuclear option" ... but can you deny that "evil flourishes when good men do nothing." We are to resist the devil (and I have always implied that this includes resisting his works also). I suggested a "balance" because many of the problems your opening article cites are issues of balance. To attack a brother/sister over a political issue or party affiliation is unbalanced to say the least. It is par with the devotion some people show to football teams. Sometimes, we just get too carried away. It is extreme. However, I see the other extreme as to repudiate it altogether. This of course comes with the caveat that if someone must "pluck their eye out" ... lest it cause them to sin ... then so be it. Each has their strengths and each has their weaknesses. I would never fault one who made such a decision.

      I do not believe that participation is the political process really leads to standing up for "what is truly and completely good" .. nor have I suggested it. I am fairly confident though that good can be done. I would never suggest someone make the political arena their primary means of doing good. God has a much better plan. However, I am not willing to completely surrender that ground to Satan either.

      Likewise, I am not sure that I would equate casting a vote being "involved with the political process." Please clarify what you mean by "involvement with the political process".

      I do agree that it is a liberty. However, such a liberties were repudiated for the sake of a weak conscience or the weak conscience of a brother. As with the plucking of one's eye, if such causes a man to wound his soul and sin, then he should have no part of it. It does not make the political process sinful, it just acknowledges the reality that someone can't involve themselves in it for conscience sake. FWIW, I do not watch political news and limit myself greatly in regards to how much "politics" I take in. I find it to be more of a burden to me than an aid in my walk with the Lord, so I avoid it. I will research candidates to make an educated vote when the time comes.
      by themoodypreacher at 01/22/10 10:12PM
    • grizzlytwelve
      Mr. Moody, how did I take your "opposing sin...period" statement out of context? The statement was made in the context of opposing things like abortion through the political process of voting. Was that not the context? How then did my response misrepresent the issue?

      The point is that if "opposing sin...period" demands that we not vote for individuals who support past, present, or future legislation that legalizes sins such as abortion or homosexual marriage, then the same logic would also demand that we not vote for individuals who support past, present, or future legislation that legalizes other forms of sin (divorce, adulterous remarriage, drunkeness, religious apostasy, etc.).

      You may very well not see ourselves as being inconsistent when we argue on the premise of thought that one should not vote for an individual who supports the legalization of certain sins but then turn around and vote "against" that individual by electing still another inidividual who himself supports legislation that has or will legalize sin. I, however, believe that the inconsistency is self-evident. We cannot just "prioritize" sin by saying that we are going to make a select few sins an issue with regard to who we vote for and, from a practical standpoint, ignore the rest.

      Practical application is where everything hits the fan here. Sure, we can verbally acknowledge that we have significant differences with ALL of the candidates on the ballot that extend even into the realm of moralty and sin. But what are we going to do with that acknowledgement?

      I, for one, would like to know which moral issues it is neccessary to have "100 percent agreement" on before we can vote for someone. Is abortion the only one? Maybe we should throw homosexual marriage in there for good measure too. But what about divorce, adultery, drunkeness, or religious apostasy? On what Biblical basis can we say that it is NOT acceptable to vote for a particular candidate on the basis of his stand on any one of these issues to the exclusion of the others?

      It appears to me anyway, that we are not only inconsistent in the way that we try to prioritize these things but we have no Biblical basis for our priorities. As Ethan has said more than once...sin is sin.
      by grizzlytwelve at 01/23/10 12:46AM
    • sallyanne
      I agree with Sherri. You sure generate valuable/interesting discussions on your blog.
      by sallyanne at 01/23/10 1:43AM
    • tom_bombadil
      I think the comments on this post illustrate very well Ethan's points, especially the hypocrisy of partisanship.
      by tom_bombadil at 01/23/10 12:00PM
    • deusvitae
      I exhort therefore, first of all, that supplications, prayers, intercessions, thanksgivings, be made for all men; for kings and all that are in high place; that we may lead a tranquil and quiet life in all godliness and gravity.
      1 Timothy 2:1-2

      I was thinking about this passage last night and how we've kind of passed over the precise way that Paul wrote what he wrote.

      The prayers, supplications, and intercessions are to be made for all men, which includes authorities. Therefore, whatever we would derive from this passage in regards to rulers must also apply to "all men."

      I still resist the idea that not voting = doing nothing. I am to petition God to make sure that we can lead tranquil lives. I am to make that petition on behalf of all men, including authorities. That is as pressing for my neighbor as it is for my President, for both, in their own ways, contribute to my ability to lead a tranquil life.

      And, especially in terms of my neighbor, that does not involve voting. But it does involve standing for what is right, and not just in the negative sense of condemning what is wrong, but also upholding what is good. If I am known for being full of that which is never against the law-- i.e. the fruit of the Spirit (Galatians 5:22-24)-- that in and of itself will lead to greater tranquility.

      If my prayer truly came with no action whatsoever, I would agree with you. But if my petition for tranquility is matched with a concern to encourage souls to do what is right and to reflect Christ's love to them, then even without participating in the political process, I have put action behind my petition.

      Involvement in the political process certainly includes voting and goes from there-- working on behalf of candidates, being a candidate oneself, and so on and so forth.

      Personally, I am unconvinced that any good can really come out of the political process, and I think that the preponderance of evidence from what has (not) happened politically over at least the past 30 years attest to that.

      Meanwhile, we have seen profound shifts in public attitudes. Remember when Dan Quayle made such a big deal out of Murphy Brown presenting a single woman having a child out of wedlock? That was 1991 or so-- not that long ago. Since then, we've had Friends, Will and Grace, Sex and the City, a host of reality shows and the like, and now such a concern as evidenced in 1991 seems quaint.

      While many on the right have focused on legislation, the elements that we would oppose have been busying using other tools to persuade, and they have done quite well. We have been, on the whole, marginalized as the people attempting to force our will upon others through legislation-- that we are trying to get in other people's business and make their decisions for them. I am not arguing about the rightness of that perspective-- I am just saying that it's really difficult to be persuasive in the public sphere when that's the way you're perceived.

      There was wisdom in the Founding Fathers not using federal legislation to legislate morality and to expect the citizens of the country to make the moral, responsible decisions themselves. This requires ideas to succeed first in the public sphere in the common discourse before it could ever reach the point of legislation.

      For now I will end by appealing to historical parallels:

      1. Prohibition was a movement directed by conscientious Christians and others attempting to rid society of a moral evil. It was imposed by legislation (an amendment to the Constitution no less!) but failed miserably and was overturned within a generation.

      2. Resistance to and isolation of smoking involved a movement directed by a large coalition of interested parties that focused on societal education and persuasion leading to significant decreases in the use of smoking and turning public opinion against smoking. After over 15 years of societal persuasion, cities and states around the country saw legislation prohibiting smoking in public places, and more often than not, they passed and have been respected. There is no strong movement to allow smoking back in public places.

      We will get much farther by promoting the Gospel of Christ in the public discourse (Romans 1:16). If we can promote the Gospel of Christ, and not a political platform, we stand a much better chance of turning the tide of popular perceptions, and then, and only then, could there ever possibly perhaps be legislation that can work.

      But in our current environment, and the things that I have seen done to the Kingdom on account of politics, I must conclude that there's no value in it. Vanity and striving after wind.
      by deusvitae at 01/23/10 2:40PM
    • godswarrior32803
      Ethan, you conclude that then. I cannot. I do see value it in. I am convinced that because if Christians remain silent that we will eventually see ourselves persecuted. While I do not fear death, I am afraid for the faith of many. It is too weak right now to sustain persecution.

      I cannot help but feel that the story of Esther is relevant here. She used the political system that was available to her and did what she could. We are given an opportunity to let our voices be heard in a loving, law abiding way. (As opposed to the man in Kansas.) I do not want to be held accountable for wasting an opportunity.
      by godswarrior32803 at 01/23/10 4:58PM
    • themoodypreacher
      Excellent observations Ethan. You make your point well.

      I am not sure that my continuing the discussion will avail much. Therefore, I will continue to promote the Gospel of Jesus Christ AND cast votes that will, albeit in small ways, help support the prayers I offer daily for the leaders of this land (all of the leaders of this land, regardless of party and otherwise) .. to include my neighbors (a point which is well made, but not remiss from my thinking ... it was just not as relevant to the course of this discussion).

      I choose not to let "politics" interfere with the charge God has given me to preach the gospel. I can fulfill that charge AND cast prayerful votes as necessary. I believe you are at liberty to choose not to vote. God be thanked that you will redirect any energies you once spent in "politics" in the charge of promoting the gospel. In this I greatly rejoice.

      Thank you for the interesting and thought provoking discussion.
      by themoodypreacher at 01/23/10 5:21PM
    • drdivore
      Ethan, Excellent posts and points well made!
      by drdivore at 01/23/10 5:42PM
    • evilmonkey
      "Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty."—2 Corinthians 3:17. Spreading the gospel is THE way things will change. The only way. Looking to anything else is idolatry.

      The pro-life movement is the prime example. The only thing it has accomplished is to rile people up and create some successful campaign contribution pushes. That's it. Politicians use misguided Christians all the time to solidify power.

      I do not vote, and when asked about my party, I now say Christian. That isn't to say that Christianity doesn't have anything to do with Politics, because it obviously does. We're spreading a Kingdom whose king is the King of Kings, for crying out loud. But true reform comes from the Gospel.
      by evilmonkey at 02/02/10 11:36AM

    Blessed be the LORD! For he has heard the voice of my pleas for mercy.

    Greetings, everyone.

    Peace, mercy, and grace be with you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.



    We're still trying to get back to some sense of routine and something some people call "normal," although I believe "crazy and frenetic" is really my "normal." But that's alright. :)

    It's been a week full of financial situations with which to deal, work that needed done, and other such things. In general, nothing "exciting" to report. But I did promise a book review post...so here it is.



    Mega book reading update.

    In the last book reading post I noted that I was reading From Gravel to Glory by Gina Calvert and The Story of Philosophy by Will Durant. So we might as well begin there. :)

    From Gravel to Glory represents Calvert's personal story told according to the image of Christian as Temple. The core message of the book-- learning to trust God and renounce self in an authentic and real way, having suffered all kinds of difficulties and coming to terms with one's own failings-- is sound.

    I can't say a whole lot when it comes to the rest of the book. It seems rather evident that Calvert and her husband were members of the church who have theologically drifted into Evangelicalism. Evangelical doctrines of the Spirit and faith as God's gift are explicitly presented. There are also matters of personal discomfort. While I would not say that there is anything inherently wrong with expanding on Biblical metaphors and making whole allegories about them, it is quite easy to read those allegories back into the text when they do not belong there. And then there is the matter of quoting from a dizzying number of translations and paraphrases without a lot of explanation. I recognize that it has become the popular thing to do among Evangelicals, but in my estimation, it at best is confusing and at worst seems to be hiding some kind of agenda, as if there is an attempt to pull one over on the reader. I don't think that such is Calvert's intention, but I also don't see the value in quoting in a bunch of translations. Pick one and then explain whatever elements of the text you feel need explaining; own up to the explanations. If you think that a given point (that is legitimately in the original text) is made more clear in a different translation, quote it and explain why.

    Anyway. In the end, no recommendation either way.

    The Story of Philosophy was my foray into trying to get a little bit of a better picture of the history of philosophy after the Romans. Durant wrote it toward the beginning of the twentieth century, and it is full of post-Enlightenment triumphalism that was somehow not even depressed by WWI but was seriously questioned after WWII. Durant tells the story of philosophy by focusing on different philosophers themselves-- Plato, Aristotle, Bacon, Spinoza, Voltaire, Kant, Spencer, Nietzsche, and a few European and American philosophers of his own age.

    As an introduction to their philosophies Durant does quite well. I found his attitude towards Christianity and Judaism irritating, as if the influence of Judeo-Christian values did nothing to enhance the philosophy of the western world. One can also easily tell where Durant's sympathies lay. Regardless, it is an interesting book that is useful if you want to get a basic idea of where philosophy has gone and why it has done so.

    In theory, the current study I am doing is on the church-- its history and books by authors in the church. To that end I finished three books by Robertson Whiteside: The Whiteside-Clark Discussion, Doctrinal Discourses, and The Kingdom of Promise and Prophecy.

    The Whiteside-Clark Discussion was a printing of a discussion in the Gospel Advocate regarding the legitimacy of Bible classes. The discussion represented both sides quite well. Clark's arguments did not really hold water and his inconsistency was apparent. Whiteside's arguments, on the whole, were decent, but I wished that he would have made more of Acts 2:42 and 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 in justifying having a period of time for a collective studying of Scripture.

    Doctrinal Discourses represented a collection of Whiteside's articles and treatises put together posthumously by his daughter Inys. She included plenty of articles on the Spirit, faith, matters of speech, discussions of various passages, and the like. She found so much on the subject of premillennialism that she had those articles published as a separate book, The Kingdom of Promise and Prophecy. These books reflect Whiteside the Bible scholar, and on the whole, he handled Scripture very well, and made very good arguments. There will be some arguments with which the reader will disagree, and many times it would have been nice if Whiteside had been less dogmatic, but his insights and willingness to recognize the distinction between what Scripture actually says and that which we impose on it are valuable indeed. These resources are beneficial for all, especially since Truth Bookstore is selling all three for a dollar each (click on the links above)!

    Now I am reading some early review books I've received through LibraryThing. The first is Onkelos on the Torah: Understanding the Bible Text: Numbers. About two years ago I had received the Leviticus edition of this work, and I was thankful to receive Numbers also. It would be great to also win Deuteronomy when it comes out later this year. :D

    Numbers was quite similar to Leviticus: some discussions were different and there were a lot more explanatory expansions regarding many questions that come up in Numbers. If you're doing heavy research into one or more of the books of the Pentateuch, the various volumes in this series are worth considering. They do well at presenting not just the Targum Onkelos text and its various text critical issues but also the history of interpretation of the text in Jewish Rabbinic tradition.

    Next I am reading The Forgiveness Solution: The Whole Body Rx for Finding True Happiness, Abundant Love, and Inner Peace by Philip Friedman, which is another early review book. I will be a good boy and reserve judgment until after I read the book. :D



    May the peace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with your spirits.

    ELDV
    • 71lespaulcustom
      While you are doing book reviews, have you ever read Instrumental Music in the Worship (1911) by M.C. Kurfees ?

      by 71lespaulcustom at 01/19/10 8:38AM