THANK YOU!

I wanted to tell you all how much I appreciate your kindness, and your insights into the "pleo-world".
I'm very happy that so many of you have commented this time, and I hope that as we continue in the Gospel
our comments help us to see the ministry and life of Christ in a richer and more applicable way.

In an effort to keep the spiritual discussion in the forefront, I am going to be editing off my personal whining, and some of the "fluff"
and keep the focus on the Scriptures and our discussion of them.

Don't be shy about making social comments too though. I am starting to get to know some of you and am enjoying your company.
Please remember one of the goals of this reading is to speak about what is PERSONALLY CHALLENGING for you, and also what is giving you ENCOURAGEMENT.
My prayer is that we all begin to see Christ in a new light,
and that the study of the Gospel will help us see more of a unity in his message, that many times "religion" has mired up with too many other things.

I'll be posting John 3 tomorrow, and as was suggested, I'm going to break up my comments on it into two parts- (one for Sunday, one for Wednesday)
so the posts are not such a tedious read.

Thank you all again.
I very much appreciate your willingness to comment here, your desire to build others up, and your love for the Gospel and the Kingdom of our Lord.

P.S.
The Prayer list will begin in January- I'm looking forward to it!

BW



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Here's a little Holiday treat:

THE SIMPLE WHITE ENVELOPE


It's just a small white envelope stuck among the branches of our
Christmas tree. No name, no identification, no inscription. It has peeked through the branches of our tree for the past 10 years or so.

It all began because my husband Mike hated Christmas --oh, not the true meaning of Christmas, but the commercial aspects of it -
the overspending, the frantic running around at the last minute to get a tie for Uncle Harry and the dusting powder for Grandma -
the gifts given in desperation because you couldn't think of anything else.

Knowing he felt this way, I decided one year to bypass the usual
shirts, sweaters, ties, and so forth. I reached for something special just for Mike. The inspiration came in an unusual way.

Our son Kevin, who was 12 that year, was wrestling at the junior level at the school he attended.
Shortly before Christmas, there was a non-league match against another team sponsored by an inner-city group.

These youngsters, dressed in sneakers so ragged that shoestrings
seemed to be the only thing holding them together, presented a sharp contrast to our boys in their spiffy blue and gold uniforms and sparkling new wrestling shoes.
As the match began, I was alarmed to see that the other team was wrestling without headgear, a kind of light helmet designed to protect a wrestler's ears.
It was a luxury the ragtag team obviously could
not afford.

Well, we ended up walloping them. We took every weight class.
Mike, seated beside me, shook his head sadly, "I wish just one of them could have won," he said. "They have a lot of potential, but losing like this could take the heart right out of them."

Mike loved kids -- all kids -- and he knew them, having coached little league football, baseball, and lacrosse.

That's when the idea for his present came.
That afternoon, I went to a local sporting goods store and bought an assortment of wrestling headgear and shoes and sent them anonymously to the inner-city group.

On Christmas Eve, I placed the envelope on the tree, the note inside telling Mike what I had done and that this was his gift from me.
His smile was the brightest thing about Christmas that year and in succeeding years.

For each Christmas, I followed the tradition --one year sending a group of mentally handicapped youngsters to a hockey game,
another year a check to a pair of elderly brothers whose home had burned to the ground the week before Christmas, and on and on. The envelope became the highlight of our Christmas.
It was always the last thing opened on Christmas morning, and our
children, ignoring their new toys, would stand with wide-eyed anticipation as their dad lifted the envelope from the tree to reveal its contents.

As the children grew, the toys gave way to more practical presents, but the envelope never lost its allure.
The story doesn't end there. You see, we lost Mike last year due to cancer. When Christmas rolled around, I was still so wrapped in grief that I barely got the tree up.

But Christmas Eve found me placing an envelope on the tree, and in the morning it was joined by three more.
Each of our children, unbeknownst to the others, had placed an envelope on the tree for their dad.

The tradition has grown and someday will expand even further with our grandchildren standing around the tree with wide-eyed anticipation watching as their fathers take down the envelope.

Mike's spirit, like the Christmas spirit, will always be with us. May we all remember the true reason for the season, and
the true Christmas spirit this year and always.
  • heather6330
    See...I told ya!
    by heather6330 at 12/13/08 12:16PM
  • firefaerie
    You could make another blog you know, just for social networking ;) Glad to hear you haven't been discouraged!
    by firefaerie at 12/13/08 12:24PM
  • cruisingmom
    I intend to get 'caught up' and jump in. Just a lot going on right now...
    by cruisingmom at 12/13/08 1:52PM
  • mr_and_mrs_berry
    Wow - that story above brought tears to my eyes. Thank you.
    by mr_and_mrs_berry at 12/13/08 3:02PM
  • firefaerie
    That was a great story, I cried.
    by firefaerie at 12/13/08 5:36PM
  • whatsyourconfession
    Yeah, me too.
    by whatsyourconfession at 12/13/08 6:09PM
  • dbsmelser
    Coolest thing about that story? Unlike so many things passed around on the net, it's apparently true - and notice the "NOTE" paragraph at the bottom of that page.
    by dbsmelser at 12/13/08 6:13PM
  • dbsmelser
    You wrote:"...the study of the Gospel will help us see more of a unity in his message, that many times "religion" has mired up with too many other things."
    Amen to that. That is one of the big reasons many of us here on Pleo are not willing to join a denominational church. Denominationalism, by definition, divides. Some of my heroes are men in the late 1700's / early 1800's who, without knowing any non-denominational believers, saw the message of scripture, understood the idea of being Christians only rather than a particular "brand" of Christian, and were forced out of their respective denominations to be simply "Christians," and referred only to scripture as their source of authority (i.e. no creeds, church constitutions, central headquarters, etc.). Many of them began using the simple descriptive phrase "church of Christ," which was used by believers universally to refer to christianity in general, and therefore ought to be a phrase that all believers could unite under. Thousands joined that movement. Unfortunately, some today who have inherited the heritage of those men revert to thinking denominationally, and of themselves as simply "another denomination" -- and the cause for unity is damaged.
    by dbsmelser at 12/13/08 6:31PM
  • dbsmelser
    Personally, I very much wish the phrase "church of Christ" were not used so uniformly.
    by dbsmelser at 12/13/08 6:33PM
  • fallacyofthemind
    I want to do that with the Christmas tree.
    by fallacyofthemind at 12/14/08 12:21AM
  • stampergirl
    I am very touched by this story. Thank you so much for sharing it with us!
    by stampergirl at 12/27/08 9:00AM

APOLOGY:

To those who got my invite I want to apologize for any pressure you may have felt by me. Pressuring you certainly was not my intent.

I was told about this site by a good friend named Robert (truthme). And he encouraged me to be on here and to read the scriptures together with all of you,
to come to common ground and have a united discussion on what the Bible says.

If you have been invited to this blog- you should know that you have had a positive impact on people.
My HOPE is to offer a place of encouragement based soley on the Word of God, and keep it from any bickering between people, or denominational groups.

My desire is that you here on pleo can be encouraged as we discuss the word, and build each other up- as we stand amazed at the written account of our Great God,
and his desire to share himself with us.

My name is Scott-
but please, I'd like to be called BW.

BW


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If you are willing, the chapter for this week is JOHN 2.
I really would love your input, and would love to have us share this together.
  • 1cor9_19
    I certainly do.
    We need to have the same passion for the church (collectively as the universal Body- and as its people) that Jesus did for the temple.
    I believe we need to, as Christians, (SCRATCH THAT) I need to, as a Christian, really stand up agains the impurities in the church, and against those who defile the body of Christ by their conduct in the name of Christ.

    HOW to do it?
    Well, I do not have the zeal, or in my mind the authority/boldness to use a whip. But I certainly must not sit idly by while we as a church destroy ourselves. I need to do as Christ did and set a powerful example of love and truth, and make a clear statement that impurity and sin in the church is not acceptable.
    The challenging part is... I believe God is calling me to lay down my life for this cause.. just as Christ did... and MY WHOLE LIFE is most likely what it will demand.
    by 1cor9_19 at 12/10/08 12:14PM
  • anonymous_us
    You know, BW... I'm not sure where to start. I'm completely overwhelmed. In fact, it's been about a year since I attended a church regularly. I, having been raised in the "Church of Christ", do not even know where to begin or how to begin searching for a different place to worship. I know I should study and pray- I have no beef with God over my situation. But I feel so far away from Him that it seems hypocritical to suddenly begin those things again. I'm not sure how to move on and begin anew.
    by anonymous_us at 12/10/08 2:40PM
  • millychloe
    Thanks for this study! I am reading and will be sure to comment when I have something to say!
    by millychloe at 12/10/08 2:58PM
  • anonymous_us
    You're right, and I know that. I'm not even sure if my heart's in the right place though, and I don't want to go asking God for help if I don't really mean it. I just don't know anymore.
    by anonymous_us at 12/10/08 3:36PM
  • anonymous_us
    Yes, I still have family in the church, and it does not help in the least. I cannot be honest with them about it because they will make my family's life miserable. As it stands, any time they talk to me or my family it's "where are you attending? Who's the preacher there? Are you teaching Bible classes? Is your husband preaching?"... you get the idea. It's nonstop. So we live in fear of them "finding out", even though it would be a relief if they did and we didn't have to worry anymore
    by anonymous_us at 12/10/08 3:40PM
  • firefaerie
    Stupidity is to blame on my part: I forget to add you as a friend once I got the invite (assuming things works on here like the do on Facebook, oops). I've seen truthme around, and it makes me smile to know someone out that thinks I have a level head. I've also encountered a simililar level of...hostility? from people in discussions groups. For that reason I, like many others, have left most of the religious discussions because they were doing no good.

    I'll be glad to be part of your study, but if I don't reply it might be because 1)I agree with you or 2)something baby related :)

    Again, thanks for the invite.
    by firefaerie at 12/11/08 9:45AM
  • firefaerie
    Oh, and Daughterofgod is my other blog, which I haven't been keeping up because I haven't been thinking about anything but morning sickness lately. So I'll just add this one for now, since I'm most active on this account.
    by firefaerie at 12/11/08 9:55AM
  • firefaerie
    I just read truthme's blog and about cried. Please tell him, even if he doesn't remember or know who I am, that I'm very sorry for what happened to him. And if he lived closer to me I'd take him and his family bowling with my husband and I!
    by firefaerie at 12/11/08 10:02AM
  • tommygirl
    I miss Rob. :(
    by tommygirl at 12/11/08 11:05AM
  • tryphena
    That (your comment on my blog) is THE difference between us and them (the global warming people)--they think they're looking at the Big Picture, but their view isn't as long-range and their priorities are out of whack. Thanks!
    by tryphena at 12/11/08 5:10PM
  • jarrod
    Hey dude, I'd love to, but my bandwidth of time right now really won't allow. So as you can tell, I feel no pressure at all. :) I might chime in here and there if I am able and have anything I feel is worth saying. Oh, and I TOTALLY don't blame you for being anonymous. Oh, and I must say that if by some small chance I was among those Rob mentioned, I must say I am quite honored and humbled by such. While I haven't met him in person, just knowing what I do of him through Pleo has been awesome! Ok, later dude, and merry Christmas! :)
    by jarrod at 12/11/08 7:52PM
  • anonymous_us
    wow... That comment put a totally different spin on how I've viewed my relationship (or lack thereof) with God lately. Thank you so much for the encouragement.
    by anonymous_us at 12/11/08 11:06PM
  • mr_and_mrs_berry
    Hi Scott - now that is an interesting vapo rub use! I haven't read all the comments above, but have been thinking about one of yours in particular since I found your blog - why Jesus turned the water to wine. I love the delight idea and the thought of His wishing to please His mother, but when I read 2:11 what I see as the "why" is that Jesus "manifested His glory" and "His disciples believed in Him." so my thoughts are that the water to wine miracle confirms John 1:14 - "the Word became flesh and dwelt amongh us, and we have seen His glory, glory as of the only Son of the Father, full of grace and truth."
    by mr_and_mrs_berry at 12/12/08 8:44AM
  • mr_and_mrs_berry
    But I also want to add, I'm a very "regular" person, not a Bible scholar. Though the book of John was a very important part of my conversion years ago and my willingness to submit to God's authority over me. I do enjoy this book.
    by mr_and_mrs_berry at 12/12/08 8:47AM
  • jkmram
    I just wanted to say that I so appreciate the heart attitude you display.

    I am swamped with family and holiday stuff right now, but I will try to catch up and join your study soon.

    Please tell Robert that I miss his thought provoking posts.
    by jkmram at 12/12/08 1:17PM
  • dbsmelser
    Yep, I left it sitting 3 feet out from the wall just so I wouldn't make that mistake! :)
    by dbsmelser at 12/12/08 1:33PM

WEEKLY BIBLE READING

JOHN CHAPTER 2-
My hope is as we start preparing to be more effective in sharing the life giving message of Christ with the lost, we can start by encouraging the united study of it among the saved.

PLEASE participate-
and invite your friends to participate.

The goal is to read John chapter 2 this week, and share:
#1- What you learned from it
#2 What encouragement you got from it
and #3- What you plan on doing differently in your life because of it.

I hope you get as much out of this as I do.
Starting in January, we will begin our prayer list too.
and as always.... don't forget to read the posts below if you are a newcomer.

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JOHN CHAPTER 2

John 2 shows us some amazing qualities of Jesus.
It begins with his first miracle- where Jesus begins to show his disciples his glory-
John 2:1-11-
Do you want to know what I think is the coolest part of Jesus’ miracles?
He let other people in on them.
His disciples passed out the loaves and fishes that fed so many-
(can you imagine handing out a multiplying meal?)
When he healed people, many times the family members and servants were in on it-
And here, it was the servants who poured in the water that right before their eyes turned into wine.

But have you ever considered that this was his first miracle?
It is easy to read over verse 3, when Mary comes to him and says “They have no more wine”
And it is easy to miss the feeling in Jesus’ words when he replies:
“Woman, why do you involve me, my time has not yet come”
But Mary knew exactly what she was asking for, and so did Jesus.

You see Jewish wedding feasts lasted a week.
And for the host to run out of food or wine was very embarrassing, it was socially crippling
And according to their laws they could actually be fined for it.
But what we see here is a lesson that we all can learn from
When faithful people need help they turn to Jesus.

Look at who Jesus was here: He was the guest-
Jesus was not stuffy, he was not a recluse-
He accepted invitations to social events, and he enjoyed life to the full.
Luke 7:34
The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and you say,
'Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and "sinners." '

Although some used his life against him, the people around him were amazed by him

Jesus has the ability to enter life’s normal experiences and sanctify them by his presence.
Jesus was invited to this wedding. He was a friend.
He made people feel warm and welcome and secure-

I wonder if we would invite him to our parties.
Do we know him as a friend?

Going on in chapter 2, Jesus then shows: His zeal-
John 2:13-22-
One of the hardest things for me to figure out in this passage is how I can look at the zeal of Christ-
Then look at my own life
And then decide how I will “walk as Jesus did”

You see, the priests here had established a very lucrative business of exchanging foreign money for temple money.
And then selling the animals needed for sacrifice.
This “religious market” started off as a convenience for the Jews, who had to travel long distances to come and sacrifice.
I mean why sacrifice your best, when you can come by a sacrifice from us?
And then it became a business – not a ministry.

The tragedy is, this business was carried out in the court of the Gentiles-
The place where the Jews should have been meeting people and telling them about the one true God-
But the moneymakers had other things on their mind.

And I look at this and ask myself- what is my priority?
What do I spend my time doing in the places where I should be telling people about God?
At work- in my neighborhood- in the marketplaces…

What Jesus did was he cleansed the temple.
But look at 1 Cor 6:19
Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit,
who is in you, whom you have received from God?
What do I do when this temple needs a cleaning?

What the disciples saw in Jesus was ZEAL !
Can you imagine the disciples – “WOW he is serious”
Overturning the tables, taking on the leaders, standing up for what is right!

But what about us?
Have we forgotten the seriousness of the task, the call, and the standard?
What do we do, when we see hypocrisy or lukewarmness in the church or our lives?
How do we handle the sin that is in our temple?
How do we deal with the sin around us?
Can you now see the difficulty in looking at my life and claiming to walk as Jesus did?
John 2:17 says of Jesus-
His disciples remembered that it is written: "Zeal for your house will consume me."
Is that what consumes you too?

Jesus came and changed everything this day.
Can you imagine the emotion these disciples were having to deal with?
On this one day, he made enemies with the rulers of the temple.
He declared an end to the legal system
He declared himself to be the new sacrifice (John 1: 29)
He declared himself to be the new temple (John 2:19)
And John will tell us later how he set forth a new standard of worship (John 4:19-24)
Worship based on inward integrity, and not outward geography.

Jesus spoke with authority- he was not passive
And, I bet at this point the words come follow me, got a little bit more frightening for the disciples

In looking at Jesus-
How do these words ring for you?

  • 71lespaulcustom
    Saw your note, and the 35 other identical ones to others. I appreciate what you are trying to do, but when you go spamming three dozen people with pleas to read you blog, not revealing who you are, then complaining about how few people posted to your last entry... you may find some folks not appreciating your efforts.
    by 71lespaulcustom at 12/08/08 8:11AM
  • ambiguous_username
    Yeah.....I'll try to get involved soon. I've been wanting to find time to read your recent entries, but I've been quite busy with school lately. Quite busy preparing for 4 finals and 3 projects, to be precise.
    by ambiguous_username at 12/08/08 9:26AM
  • create_a_way
    I have to admit, you are engaging in one of my pet peeves. In your post below, you project your own experiences on the group. You say "we" do not engage in hospitality, and you make assumptions about the kind of churches "we" go to, and the quality of people "we" surround ourselves with. Maybe YOU do those things, but I don't. It's always a pet peeve of mine when I hear preachers do that...projecting some quality onto people with the word "we", when it is more apt for the preacher (or writer, in your case) to say "I" or "some of us." Be very careful about such blanket statements...especially when they pertain to an assumed weakness/area for improvement AND you have no interpersonal history with people (which would inspire them to give you the benefit of the doubt.) I have found your thoughts EXTREMELY well thought out, and Biblical. However, my enthusiasm for reading your post wanes when I read that you are making assumptions about me that are COMPLETELY untrue. Now, maybe you didn't mean it that way. In that case, be very careful about your communication and try and be as specific as possible, lest you turn someone off with inaccurate blanket statements. Does that make sense?
    by create_a_way at 12/08/08 10:53AM
  • 1cor9_19
    Thank you for your correction.
    my use of "we" was certainly not a reflection on you. Thank you so much for letting me know of my error. I do very much appreciate it, and will in the future be more clear on my words.
    James 3:6
    the tongue also is a fire, a world of evil among the parts of the body. It corrupts the whole person, sets the whole course of his life on fire, and is itself set on fire by hell.

    I will try to keep MINE in check.
    thank you again.
    by 1cor9_19 at 12/08/08 11:24AM
  • 1cor9_19
    I made changes to the post below, to keep in line with your correction. Thank you again.
    by 1cor9_19 at 12/08/08 1:27PM
  • brownie
    If this is Jesus's first miracle then why does it seem that Mary is so "casual" about telling Him that they had run out of wine? (responding with by telling the servants "do whatever He says you, do it". What do you think He means by "My hour has not yet come"? It might be helpful if you could explain that a little bit more. And I agree with you about Christ's zeal-- driving the merchants out of the temple. And we should not only cleanse our own lukewarmness of Christ's church, but first we must cleanse the temple of our bodies--by getting rid of the inward sin.
    by brownie at 12/08/08 3:28PM
  • 1cor9_19
    I personally believe that Christ has definitely shown signs of his "divinity" from an early age- We see many examples of things Jesus did that the scriptures say "Mary pondered these things in her heart". (for example at the end of Luke 2)
    I believe this is a great testimony to Mary's faith! By what she saw, I believe she KNEW he could do a miracle if need be. She obviously knew that he was not "just another human" due to the nature of his birth.
    by 1cor9_19 at 12/08/08 3:51PM
  • 1cor9_19
    "My time has not come" I believe is him saying it is not yet time for his public ministry (one that was evidenced by miracles wonders and signs) to begin. Yet again, out of love and respect for his mother... he yielded to her desires.

    Again- this challenges me so much as to where MY faith is! After all I have seen and heard, what do I believe he can do in MY life... and in MY situations... very challenging.
    by 1cor9_19 at 12/08/08 3:53PM
  • brownie
    that makes sense. I have never looked at it like that. Thanks.
    by brownie at 12/09/08 8:09AM

Are we slow to learn?

Thank you so very much to those who are joining us for our weekly readings and discussion of the book of John.
Please please please link this blog to your friends... (we have not had much discussion so far).

I really do believe as we focus on his word and build each other up in it, God will again show his mighty power among his people.

I am so happy for the unity in Christ we share.
PLEASE continue to post your JOHN 1 comments below...


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Here's a little freebie from your friend "truthme" I promised I'd post for him.
He does read this blog and says he loves and misses you all.

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Are we slow to learn?

In Hebrews the writer speaks of those who by this time should be teachers.
Heb 5:11-12
We have much to say about this, but it is hard to explain because you are slow to learn. In fact, by this time you ought to be teachers

They should have the capacity, the desire, and by this time, the experience of passing on this life giving message.
I think about that a lot.
When people look at me and how many years I have been in the faith, do those younger say
“Wow… is that where I can be when I’m that old in the faith?”
(And do they say that in awe, or disgust?)
Do we older Christians inspire the younger with our faithfulness?
Is our life a lesson on spiritual zeal and passion?
Do we teach what compassion, and love really mean... by who we are?

Hebrews goes on to say you are not teachers… and you need someone to teach you something…
The elementary truths.
Now some of these are listed below in verses 1-3 of chapter 6. (Repentance, faith, baptism, etc..)
But those are teachings to get INTO Christ. (although they certainly must continue after)
But, what about the elementary teachings for those IN Christ?
As I look in the scriptures the most basic and elementary teaching for a Christian was to give.
It was a natural response, and a forceful command.
Give love.
Give of your time.
Put others first.
Give and give and FORgive.
Give money, give help, give hope, but most of all, give CHRIST.

When Andrew first was called, he went and told Peter.
When the woman at the well heard, she went and told the whole town.
When the demon possessed man heard, he told the Decapolis.
The disciples day after day and from house to house never STOPPED preaching.
In fact it is our Great commission- Go give. Give Christ… go make disciples!
They didn't have all the answers- but they knew HIM.. and they knew that everyone else needed to know HIM!
His love overflowed from them... and by this, all men KNEW!

Let me ask you:
If you walked into a church that did not use a Bible, would you stay?
If you walked into a church that refused to speak of sin, would you go back?
If they denied God’s standards on purity, or modesty, would you bring your children?

Yet many of us walk into churches every Sunday where people have gone weeks, months, and many times a lifetime- and do not, will not, and have not studied out the message of hope with the lost.
Many have gone 2,3,5,10,20 years! and have never brought a soul to Christ!
It is just no longer the purpose of far too many in our fellowship.
many of us belong to churches with members whose homes we have never been in because it is no longer common for many, even those professing faith, to offer hospitality.
and yet in churches, many surround themselves with people who do not study consistently, pray seldom, and by the looks of the attendance, have forsaken meeting together.
And yet, say very little about it.

Hebrews goes on to explain why to us.
Heb 5:13-14
Anyone who lives on milk, being still an infant, is not acquainted with the teaching about righteousness.
But solid food is for the mature, who by CONSTANT USE have trained themselves to distinguish good from evil.

If I do not put his word into constant use.
If I am not diligent in my study,
If I have not learned to give.
My time, my self, and my hope, to others… I will no longer be able to distinguish good from evil
Paul mentions this in his words to Philemon:
Philemon: 6
I pray that you may be active in sharing your faith, so that you will have a full understanding of every good thing we have in Christ.

And those of us NOT active in sharing our faith… well, we just don’t get it.
I'd hate to see churches full of people with all the right rules, and all the right doctrine- Who don’t even know right from wrong.
Who surround themselves with people who have not, and do not share this word with the lost,
And then think it is acceptable.
I'd hate to see Church become about issues, and rules and doctrines, and not about saving souls-
When we do not know right from wrong... Satan likes that all too well.

Chapter 6 goes on to say something frightening.
Heb 6:4-6
It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age, if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance, because to their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.

And again he gives us an idea as to why this comes about:
He tells us the difference between those who fell, and those who grew to maturity.
The mature ones produced a crop.
Heb 6:7
Land that drinks in the rain often falling on it and that produces a crop useful to those for whom it is farmed receives the blessing of God

The rest… Look at what stopped them
Heb 6:8
But land that produces thorns and thistles is worthless and is in danger of being cursed. In the end it will be burned.

Thorns and thistles.
What on earth are spiritual thorns and thistles?
Jesus tells us:
Mark 4:18-20
Still others, like seed sown among thorns, hear the word; but the worries of this life, the deceitfulness of wealth and the desires for other things come in and choke the word, making it unfruitful.
Others, like seed sown on good soil, hear the word, accept it, and produce a crop — thirty, sixty or even a hundred times what was sown."

Worries of this life
Deceitfulness of wealth
And the desires for other things.

Yet the good soil did what? It produced a harvest!
So we must ask ourselves:
Have we had more concern for our own worries, than the souls of those around us?
Have we been more concerned with other things… than in sharing Jesus’ things?

We all have been given so much
I pray we all learn ourselves…. To give.
The man who loves his life will lose it, while the man who hates his life in this world will keep it for eternal life.

Jesus gave everything.
Will we?

I love you all.
There is no greater work we can do than saving souls.
And just as the writer of Hebrews said to his people…
I say the same to you
Heb 6:9-12
Even though we speak like this, dear friends, we are confident of better things in your case — things that accompany salvation.
God is not unjust; he will not forget your work and the love you have shown him as you have helped his people and continue to help them.
We want each of you to show this same diligence to the very end, in order to make your hope sure. We do not want you to become lazy,
but to imitate those who through faith and patience inherit what has been promised.


What an honor it is to bring souls to our amazing and loving God!
  • ncsuz409
    Give and give and FORgive... good thoughts, great challenges, Godly solutions.
    In keeping with this holy season, many words sing a song of faith and belief in our minds...
    "Do you hear what I hear?".......Christ the saviour.
    by ncsuz409 at 12/05/08 11:45AM

Weekly Reading-

Before we begin, I want to thank all of you for being so encouraging.
When my friend told me to post these blogs for him, and to encourage all of you, I had no idea how encouraging you all would be to me.

I ask you now, to please invite everyone you know.
Link this to your friends. My hope is that we can share and encourage each other in the word,
and soon begin our prayer chain and watch as God takes all that he has given us, and make from it, all that he has planned for us.

We are starting in John chapter 1-
PLEASE read it for yourselves, and post on here what you get out of it. Post what amazes you from it.
And post what you will do because of it.
Let us continue to build each other up.


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John 1:1-5-
What an amazing introduction to the person of Jesus.
Before creation was, he was.
In the very beginning he was with God and he was God
All creation was formed through him- all life was formed by his word- And now he has come to us.
And in him is life.

What a great way to view Jesus- what a great way to view our relationship with God.
In him is life!
Not just the ordinary, not just existence- But as Jesus promised in John 10:10... life to the full.
A life that is a light to men- a life that he commands to shine.

But he goes on to say this will also be a life that far too few understand.

In the same way that our words reveal to others what our hearts and minds hold
Jesus Christ is the Word of God to reveal his heart and mind to men
Jesus Christ is the eternal word, full of life and truth.
He is the I am, and is filled with the glory of God.
The word was truly made flesh and he identified with us in every aspect of life- from birth to death.


He is also called the Light-
Jesus not only is the light- he came to give light to each of us as well.
Over and over in his word he compares following him to coming onto the light
And for those who have come to him he commands us to shine.

There are 4 essentials for life to exist- and Jesus became to us, all 4 of these
Light, Air, water, and food
- He is the light of life-
- By his spirit he gives the breath of life
- He is the water of life that wells up to eternal life
- And he is the living bread that came down from heaven-

My hope is that we let him into our lives.
As I examine this chapter, my decision is to enjoy life more.
It is to let Jesus shine through me and to be light for people near me.

Christ has called me to follow after him.
This means that I too need to do all I can to be light, and life.

I hope this chapter encourages you to do the same.



BW
  • kevin
    What I have noticed and appreciated from this passage is the true Incarnation of God. God giving up a portion of his deity and becoming a man in the flesh.

    Imagine for a second what it would have been like from God's perspective. You go from being in that position of "creating the world with a thought" to being totally helpless in a manger, dependent on another HUMAN being for everything. To me, this example of God giving up so much of himself demonstrates his great love. He truly had to take a new approach to dealing with men. Being the awesome, impressive, powerful God of Israel was not good enough for mankind. While his power and protection got Israel to love him for short periods of time, it could not get Israel to truly love him with a deep and sincere love. Power did not equate to love. Instead, he took a new approach. He gave up the form of awesomeness and magnificence, and took on the lowly form of one of His creation. God had found a new way to show his love to his people.

    God really gave up a lot in taking on our form, but think of the benefits he enjoyed also. Whenever anyone came into the presence of God they were terrified. No one wanted to gaze at his face. The people even told Moses to go and deal with God because they were afraid. Moses saw the back of God's head and still had to wear a veil to shield God's brilliance. God was always a God of love, but his very presence inspired fear. The phrase "Fear not" is the most repeated command in the Bible. It was how God or one of his messengers always had to address people before they began speaking. To be in God's presence was terrifying. But in John 1:1, that presence is different. God can communicate and talk to his creation without first having to say "Fear not." God can get angry and yell (Jesus driving out the money changers from the Temple) without his voice shattering the landscape. Jesus' Incarnation, showed God's true desire to be able to communicate with his people and show them a type of love that would actually get them to truly love Him in return.
    by kevin at 12/01/08 10:36AM
  • 1cor9_19
    Great points. When you think about it... after looking at God's love and his willingness to humble himself like this- then look at his willingness to die on the cross- then take that in the context of how he lived his life... HOW could we ever doubt his power in our lives now? Why would we ever doubt his willingness and ability to answer our prayers. I think in the midst of our religion, we often lose sight of God's love. What an encouragement it is to see how far God will go to give us life!
    by 1cor9_19 at 12/01/08 11:11AM
  • aaronw
    There are so many bold, yet comforting statements in John 1.

    "He came to His own..."

    What a great joy that God has such a desire for our hearts that He would, rather than overpower us and command that we come to Him, humble himself and come to us! He is God, yet He is coming to us, serving us.

    "No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him."

    Jesus' life is God declaring who He is. This is the first time anyone can actually see God. Everything that Jesus does in His life is a declaration of our huge God. Interestingly, you won't see Jesus destroying armies, but you'll see Him healing, feeding, washing, and suffering.

    The many statements about Jesus in this chapter inspire me to take joy in discovering God through Christ's life on Earth, and they cause me to seek God's guidance in my own life, no matter how foolish or uncomfortable it seems.
    by aaronw at 12/01/08 10:27PM
  • ncsuz409
    I received an email from Robert that you would be blogging his writings, encouragement and wisdom. May I join your circle of readers? Suzanne here, BLESS YOU!
    by ncsuz409 at 12/02/08 11:32PM
  • 1cor9_19
    Yes. Robert is a good old friend. He's been a big encouragement to me too. Keep him in your prayers- He's working in a tough area right now.
    by 1cor9_19 at 12/03/08 10:14AM
  • ncsuz409
    Thank you for welcoming me aboard. I did hear back from him last evening, looks like we have encouraged each other, even if it's just a little bit (every little bit helps) I will keep him in my prayers. Coincidentally, I was reading John before I came across Robert's blog. Guess this path here to your blog site was meant to be. I wonder who really is responsible for that...hmmmm :)
    by ncsuz409 at 12/03/08 12:10PM
  • verny_mack
    Telling me that I'm encouraging you is encouraging to me! :) Thank you.

    Wow, ha. Music is pretty much my favorite thing on this earth, besides people (but they are compared pretty closely ;)). I'm in two rock bands (I play the bass) and I've played the guitar for a little over a year.
    Some of my favorite bands include Anberlin, Superchick, Barlow Girl, Good Charlotte, Between The Trees, Ingrid Michaelson, Evanescence, Flyleaf, Paramore, Relient K and Rise against. Those are just a few. :) A lot of them carry the genre of "Christian," but that's not really what I look for. I just like them because of the lyrics I can relate to, and a cool tune. :) Sorry this was so long!
    by verny_mack at 12/03/08 10:05PM
  • slave_of_jesus_jdb
    Thanks, bro. I'm Joshua. Did you introduce yourself to me before?
    by slave_of_jesus_jdb at 12/03/08 10:17PM
  • verny_mack
    Oh I love Switchfoot! :) We did some Red Hot Chili Peppers in band last year. ...We did Higher Ground and another one, but I forgot which one. :) Awesome.
    by verny_mack at 12/03/08 11:39PM
  • verny_mack
    Oh true! I saw him at Rock the Universe at Universal Studios in September of last year. :) Good stuff. I also like Skillet, if you've listened to them.
    by verny_mack at 12/03/08 11:44PM
  • create_a_way
    very well said! What used to floor me even more, was when I couldn't understand why there were advocates for EVERYTHING from minorities, homosexuals, trees, animals plants, air, water, you name it, and yet there was a dearth of advocates for the unborn. I did, however, find a group that is in no way connected with Christianity, that is (in large part) committed to the rights of the unborn(among others)...vegans. Many vegans are, in principal, against consuming, or even hurting, anything that is, or once was, alive, or the product of something that was alive. (no eggs, honey, etc.) I found that fascinating that true Vegans, with a capital V, were almost always abortion opponents. Isn't that interesting? By the way, you have a lot of my favorite people (in real life, as well as pleo) commenting on your blog. Well done. You have created spiritually enlightening interactions while staying true to your goal of avoiding petty arguments that get sidetracked from the crux of a particular issue.
    by create_a_way at 12/04/08 4:32PM
  • ncsuz409
    lol you're very funny! As long as the end result is that we have ALL put our big "heads" together and encourage each other! "Positive & Encouring are my 2 favorite words this past year or so....keep it coming, keep it coming! Thx for informing me there are various contributors. Let me know who takes the next turn! Bless ya! (and a heehee right backatcha!)
    by ncsuz409 at 12/04/08 5:54PM